The Athletic’s Jourdan Rodrigue joins the podcast to share insights from her podcast series The Playcallers. She gives us a behind the scenes look of what it’s really like being a NFL coach from the minds of Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Mike McDaniel and more. Plus, she shares what surprised her most from the series, the process of humanizing NFL figures, and the endlessness of finding what’s next.

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