Lynn and I talked about her life-changing injury, her different coaching style, her book, her corporate background and lots more. It has been a joyful interview with many golden nuggets.

John told me why he calls himself "Shame Doctor"? He shared his expertise on emotional healing, shame, and personal development. He also explained the difference between shame and guilt. And his personal relationship with shame and how he healed himself.

We talked about Paul's law background, his previous kitesurfing business, the part where he lived on a First Nations reserve as a teacher, how he met with his wife and many other not-well-known facts about him. This interview is fun.