On this episode of ID the Future, James M. Tour, Rice University professor of chemistry, materials science and nanoengineering, and a recipient of multiple scientific awards, continues a conversation with Signature in the Cell author Stephen C. Meyer about research into the origin of life. In this second of three parts, Tour insists that the scientific community remains clueless as to how life could have arisen naturalistically, and that all the public spin to the contrary is only so much storytelling. Even the most hopeful research shows that chemistry doesn’t move in life-friendly directions without investigator interference. Meyer goes further, arguing that these mindful interferences themselves exemplify the unique causal power of intelligent agency in action, suggesting that intelligent design is the only causally adequate explanation for the origin of the first life. The two also discuss Jeremy England, dissipation theorems, and Brian Miller’s work on the origin of life and the second law of thermodynamics. The episode is excerpted from a longer interview in Tour’s excellent new video series The Science & Faith Podcast: Follow the Evidence.