In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Adrian Brink, Co-Founder of Anoma and Namada, to explore the intersection of privacy, sovereignty, and resilience in Web3. Adrian shares his journey from the early days of building Cosmos to building intent-based systems that empower communities and protect dignity at scale.

We dive into the challenges of designing for a fragmented world, the promise of cryptography, and the importance of local-first infrastructure. Adrian also discusses the Tornado Cash case, the role of intent-based systems in addressing regulatory concerns, and how cryptography can help communities defend against external threats.

From the evolution of Web3 to the future of AI-driven coordination, this conversation is packed with insights on building networks that bend toward freedom without breaking under the weight of reality.

Chapters

00:00: Setting the stage: intention, privacy, and protecting dignity in a digital world

03:39: Sovereign infrastructure: community defense and resilience against external threats

05:23: Reimagining privacy: moving beyond Band-Aid solutions to foundational change

07:24: The state of Web3: challenges, stagnation, and the need for meaningful innovation

10:02: Intent-based systems: reshaping privacy and sovereignty for individuals and communities

12:03: Flexibility and security: building adaptable systems for diverse global needs

15:13: Tornado Cash and regulatory challenges: intent systems as a potential solution

20:13: Navigating high-risk environments: sanctions, blackouts, and global regulations

25:20: The next 100 million users: making crypto accessible and practical for everyday life

30:05: Financial literacy and coordination: unlocking new possibilities for global commerce

35:00: Cryptography and trust: scaling trust systems for local and global communities

40:00: Societal transformation: blockchain’s role in reshaping politics, economics, and governance

45:00: AI and intents: the future of coordination in the age of artificial intelligence

48:12: Staying grounded: Adrian’s advice for navigating innovation and building for the right reasons

49:19: Closing thoughts: where to find Adrian and what’s next for Namada