In this special bonus episode of the podcast for International Women’s Day, Danni and Laura discuss this year’s theme, Inspire Inclusion, and how in particular women in mid-life have been pushing boundaries over the past few years to become more visible and included.

They’re joined by former editor of The Sunday Times magazine Eleanor Mills, who started the “Noon” community to help these women (who she calls “Queenagers”) take control of this chapter of their lives, including their finances.