Jonathan and Chris speak to David Robert Grimes, physicist, cancer researcher and science writer, about 5G and why we believe things that aren’t true.

 

1:00 A physicist who studies biology

2:46 What is radiation?

4:16 Harm from radiation

7:02 5G

13:01 Why can’t 5G cook us?

15:51 Genuine concerns about 5G

19:26 The psychology of conspiracy theorists

23:41 Schrödinger’s bin Laden

28:00 5G and COVID and the Towering Infernos

31:16 Electromagnetic hypersensitivity syndrome

37:05 Talking to believers

41:05 Live. Die. Repeat.

47:12 The Irrational Ape

 

* Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra.

 

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Links:

1) David Robert Grimes’ website: https://www.davidrobertgrimes.com/

2) His book, The Irrational Ape: https://www.davidrobertgrimes.com/copy-of-research-papers

3) David Robert Grimes on Twitter: https://twitter.com/drg1985