Episode Description:

This episode features a May 7, 2025 conversation between Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and U.S. District Judge Lawrence J. Vilardo. They discuss why judicial independence matters in our democracy and how it helps balance power between different parts of government.

Both judges share stories about their personal backgrounds, law school experiences, and key moments in their careers. They also talk about what makes legal writing effective and why court decisions should be written clearly so everyone can understand them. The conversation gives listeners a unique look into the thoughts of two important judges as they reflect on their shared history and how the legal world has changed over time.

Background:

On May 7, 2025, Chief Justice John Roberts headlined the Western District of New York 125th Anniversary Dinner Event in Buffalo, NY. As part of this event, U.S. District Judge Lawrence J. Vilardo interviewed Chief Justice Roberts. From the Event's press release:

“Chief Justice Roberts was born in Buffalo and spent his early childhood here, so we claim him as one of our own,” said Chief U.S. District Judge Elizabeth Wolford. “His willingness to join us for our 125th Anniversary makes the celebration all the more special. It’s a testament to Western New York’s rich legal history and the Chief Justice’s commitment to our profession.”

Event Press Release: Here.

H/T to WGRZ-TV for the recording.

Timestamps:

00:00 Welcoming Remarks and Reflections

00:57 Reflecting on the Past: A Journey Back to Buffalo

09:26 The Art of Writing Clearly

14:07 Judicial Independence and Its Implications

25:42 The Role of the Chief Justice in Public Life

32:04 Reflections on Two Decades on the Court

38:43 The Evolution of Legal Perspectives

43:20 The Influence of Judicial Mentorship

48:35 Reflections on Clerking and the Law