Michael Bayliss (pictured) is the media manager with "Sustainable Population Australia" and helps us understand what a challenging and fraught issue this can be when it becomes the focus of a conversation.

Working with his friend, Mark Allen, Michael shares with listeners a remarkable array of information and stories arising from the holy grail of growth on their podcast "Post-Growth Australia".

Also, being active in the population conversation, Michael just recently wrote a story for the Population Media Centre headed, "Population Growth and Wealth Inequality Are More Entwined Than We Thought: Here’s Why."

An article well worth a read is that by Ian Lowe, Jane O’Sullivan and Peter Cook is that on the Population Australia website headed: "Population and climate change".