The first batch of iPhone 12s have arrived in the hands of our two Apple experts. Macworld senior writer Michael Simon and Computerworld executive editor Ken Mingis join Juliet to discuss first thoughts on the iPhone 12, whether to buy an iPhone 12 or iPhone 12 Pro and how many Apple expects to sell. Plus, Mike sheds light on Apple’s Q4 earnings call and when the next Apple event (and the release of the first Apple Silicon Mac) will be held.