In part four of Remember Shuffle’s ongoing series on the Iraq War, Remember Shuffle is joined by guests Lyle Jeremy Rubin and Van Jackson, the hosts of the [Bang-Bang] podcast. We turn now to the ramping up of violence in the years 2004-2005, and the United States refusal to recognize the current battle space: one of counter insurgency. As always we end our discussion with a movie set during this period: American Sniper and Warfare.

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For more on Counter Insurgency as “conservative, high-modern utopianism”, see Van’s conversation on his other podcast, Un-Diplomatic: www.un-diplomatic.com/p/the-reactionary-worldmaking-of-counter

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