John and Shane walk through a challenging question related to perceived impressions that the church is slipping into moral deism. A Colson Fellow asked about John's Bene-Kuyper option, blending the Benedict Option and Kuyper's view of culture engagement.

Another Colson Fellow asked John and Shane to explain how to engage a pastor and encourage a church that doesn't see the need to participate in conversations in the culture. The Fellow mentioned there is a growing fear the church could "lose our witness to the lost".

To close, John is asked how believers should respond in the wake of the Ravi Zacharias report. When pastors, priests, and teachers fall morally, how should bewildered Christians move forward?