Earlier this spring, Sir Nicholas headed off to Chamonix for a conference of family lawyers. There, he delivered a speech titled "The Law is Above You". But is it? In this episode, we'll play an extract from that speech and spark a conversation with Charlie and Helena about the Trump administration's myriad abuses of power, and whether the law can be play a role in preventing further injustices.

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Hosted by: Charlie Falconer, Helena Kennedy, Nicholas Mostyn.

Executive Producer and Editor: Nick Hilton.

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Music by Richard Strauss, arranged and performed by Anthony Willis & Brett Bailey.

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