What does it actually mean to abolish abortion — not just restrict it? In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, host Robert Bortins sits down with Classical Conversations graduate and Students for Abolition president Pate Anglin to discuss why a biblical abolitionist framework goes further than the mainstream pro-life movement — and how student chapters across 8 states are taking that fight to college campuses, state capitals, and beyond. Pate Anglin grew up in a homeschooling household shaped by classical education, faith, and the intentional discipleship of his parents — and he credits that foundation with preparing him for what he encountered at East Tennessee State University. Entering college in 2021 on a full-ride leadership scholarship, Pate quickly found himself navigating pronoun mandates, ideological pressure, and a campus culture hostile to a biblical worldview. Rather than retreating, he leaned in — and what started as a small group of young men praying in a dorm room became Students for Abolition, a rapidly growing network now active on 14 campuses across 7 states and into Canada. In this conversation, Robert and Pate dig into what truly separates the abolitionist position from mainstream pro-life strategy. Pate argues that much of the pro-life movement — though well-intentioned — has unknowingly adopted a humanistic framework, opposing abortion because it "pollutes the water" or "hurts mothers" rather than because it violates God's law. He walks through the abolitionist acronym GATES (Gospel-centered, Aligned through the church, Engaged biblically, Sought immediately) and explains how rooting the argument in Scripture changes everything — including how the law can function as a tool for tutoring society, restraining evil, and even serving as a gateway to the gospel. They also tackle some of the most contested questions in the movement: Should mothers be criminalized? What would an equal protection bill actually look like in practice? Why do so many pro-life organizations oppose abolition legislation? And why does Students for Abolition intentionally place men in leadership roles on the front lines of this cultural battle? Whether you're a CC parent wondering how classical education prepares students for the real world, a student looking to get involved, or a Christian trying to think through the abortion issue with more biblical clarity — this episode will challenge and encourage you.

Resources: Pate's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pateanglin/

Pate's X account: https://x.com/pateanglin

https://studentsforabolition.org/

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