This episode originally aired in January 2022.

We were delighted to have actor Isabelle Fuhrman as one of our earliest guests. She may be best known for playing the titular role in the Orphan franchise (and since this interview she's gone on to stun us with Orphan: First Kill); Sheroes  is in theaters now; and she played Clove in the Hunger Games movies.  In this episode, she talks with Jordan about her movie, The Novice (just released at the time of this interview), and how her role in it changed the way she thought about acting, her body, and the very nature of work. 

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With Jordan Crucchiola and Isabelle Fuhrman

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