For various reasons, the next installment of Moving Kryptonian Images has been delayed. But...that doesn't mean that I don't have a new episode of the show to release.

Because I care.

Recently I sat down with Andrew Leyland (you know, my co-host on The Overlooked Dark Knight and the co-host of Hey Kids Comics and the host of The Amazing Spider-Man From The Beginning) and we talked about three times where Superman, either directly or indirectly, crossed paths with The Fantastic Four. Why? Because the FF are getting a new movie a few weeks after Superman gets his new movie and I like jumping on bandwagons.

Mercenary? Yes. Do I care? Not really.

Anyway, Andy used to co-host a Fantastic Four show and we're friends, so this episode seemed like a good idea. We have a brief chat about our histories with the Fantastic Four, our thoughts on their previous cinematic efforts, why you shouldn't watch the 2015 film, and then we get into some comics. First up are Adventures of Superman issues 466 and 468, which feature Superman going up against a very Fantastic Four like team, one of which ends up being a pretty big deal. Then we talk about the Superman/Fantastic Four treasury crossover from 1999, which features the previously mentioned big deal. Finally, we talk about Fantastic Four issues 249 and 250 where the FF go up against Gladiator in a story that came about because John Byrne had beef with E. Nelson Bridwell.

No. I'm not kidding about that. But...level with me...are you really surprised?

Many thanks to Andy taking time out of his Saturday to talk with me about Superman and the Fantastic Four. Check out his shows. They are keen.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

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The opening  theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound. The closing theme is a surprise.

Next Time: Hopefully I'll be getting back to Moving Kryptonian Images. If not, I'll either cover some of the feedback I'm getting or maybe I'll talk about my thoughts concerning the new Superman film since we're so close to it being released.

Welcome to a very special installment of the podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

In 2018, the most famous (or, as some would say, infamous) Superman story of all time got a second chance at an animated film. Despite looking more like a New 52 story, The Death of Superman was a closer adaptation to the original comic book story than the 2007 version. Because of that, I wanted to do something special with this episode and the next one and having one of the architects of said original comic book story seemed like the way to go. Joining me for this episode is Jerry Ordway and the conversation we had touches on the animated film but goes far beyond it as well.

Jerry shares his thoughts on the movie, but also what it was like attending a screening in New York City where he got to meet some of the cast and crew. We also touch on the behind the scenes of the original comic book version of the death of Superman, how Jerry broke into comics, his early career and how quitting DC led to him getting more work, the early days of the Post Crisis era, and so much more. He also talks about his visit to the set of the new Superman film and what it was like meeting the new Superman and Lex Luthor.

I cannot thank Jerry enough for appearing on this episode. It meant a lot to this Post Crisis fan.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: A slight detour from Moving Kryptonian Images. Andy Leyland joins me to talk about the times that Superman met the Fantastic Four (and vice versa) both directly and indirectly.

Welcome to another, equally controversial installment of the podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

Jon Wilson (he of of Ninjas and Bots, Babylon 5: Thirty Years Later, and The Spider Diaries) returns to talk about Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. It is both fair and accurate to say that from the time it was announced and especially when it was released that this movie has garnered a lot of controversy. Not real controversy. I mean...there are many, many, many real controversies in the world that we should be arguing about, but for some reason this movie gets brought up again and again. 

Seriously. The world's on fire. And not in a good way. And people still focus on this film. It's wild.

Though, how much of a leg to stand on do I have? I've been doing a whole series about Superman movies.

Anyway, Jon and I have another honest conversation about the movie and once again I chose to take on the movie on the movie's terms. We talk about the Bat costume, whether or not this was the right take on Batman for the first film in a new iteration, what potential crimes Batman committed...man, we talked about Batman a lot. But we also talked about Superman, Lex Luthor, Lois, and much, much more. The good. The bad. What we liked. What we didn't like. It was a fun two hours.

Once again, I’d like to thank Jon for joining me on this episode. Head on over to the Jon Reads Comics site to check out all of his fantastic podcasts.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Moving Kryptonian Images continues with another death of Superman movie called...The Death of Superman. My guest? It's a surprise!

Welcome to a controversial installment of the podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

I think it is both fair and accurate to say that Man of Steel is a contentious Superman film, at least as far as the Superman fan community is concerned. It was a movie that brought in a new generation of fans, but it was also a movie that did things to the character that some (not all, some) older fans had serious problems while other older fans really liked it and what could best be described as a bar fight broke out on social media platforms and, in some corners of those platforms, that fight is still going on. Talking about Man of Steel is much more complicated than it needs to be.

Because of that, I wanted to talk to someone that loves Man of Steel but is still willing to have a genuine and honest conversation about the film. Which is why I asked my good friend Jon Wilson (he of Ninjas and Bots, Babylon 5: Thirty Years Later, and The Spider Diaries) to not only join me for this episode, but also the next one. We talk about all of the big moments of the film as well as the moments that caused the most controversy. The new version of Krypton, Jonathan Kents "maybe", Jonathan Kent's death, this version of Zod, the neck snap heard round the world, and Zack Snyder and David Goyer's take on Superman in general. I'm not saying it's the most in-depth conversation about Man of Steel, but it's honest and kind of funny at times.

Once again, I'd like to thank Jon for joining me on this episode. Head on over to the Jon Reads Comics site to check out all of his fantastic podcasts.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Moving Kryptonian Images continues with Jon coming back to talk about Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice!

Welcome to a boundless installment of the podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

This time out Tyler Patrick of The Krypton Report joins me to talk about Superman Unbound. This animated film is based on the Brainiac storyline from Action Comics issues 866-870, which was written by Geoff Johns with art by Gary Frank and is the second animated film covered in this series where Superman faces off against Brainiac. As has become the norm with these animated films Tyler and I talk about both the movie and the comic, comparing and contrasting the two and even going into the time period the story was originally published. We also talk about Supergirl's role in the film, the voice cast, the animated, and the music. Plus, in the middle I fight a bear.

Okay, I don't fight a bear at any point in the episode. I was just seeing if you were paying attention to the notes at this point.

Once again, I wanted to thank Patrick for being on the show. Be sure to check out The Krypton Report because it's a great show.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Moving Kryptonian Images continues with Jon M Wilson joining me for the first of two appearances. We're talking about a little film that may have made some waves online. Man of Steel.

Welcome to second in my Summer Special series, which I'm doing because there's a big time Superman film coming out and extra content seemed like a fun idea. Also, I'm in the middle of big-time mega-series on the main show, and that series is pretty rigid in its format, so specials were the only way I was going to be able to talk about the things I am going to be talking about.

This time out I am joined by Rob O'Connor and Alan Burke of the All-Star Superfan Podcast to discuss a story that many Superman fans consider to be on the greatest of all time. Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow originally appeared in Superman #423 and Action Comics #583 and served as the close out to Silver and Bronze Age era that was just about to be shown the door in favor of John Byrne's Man of Steel series. Written by Alan Moore with art by Curt Swan, George Perez, and Kurt Schaffenberger, this story tells the story of Superman's final days, which are filled with violence, heart ache, and a last stand in the Fortress of Solitude.

So... not exactly a laugh riot, but a compelling story, nonetheless. 

Rob, Alan, and I tackle this story from every angle. We talk about the previously mentioned violence, our favorite parts, our less than favorite parts, Superman's actions at the end of the story, and ask whether or not this was a fitting end to the Silver and Bronze Age of Superman. We also get into the thorny debate of whether or not Superman should kill or not, which is an issue that has come up a lot in Superman fandom since the snap heard round the world in Man of Steel.

I wanted to thank Alan and Rob again for joining me on this one. It was a lot of fun. Check out the All-Star Superfan Podcast. It's amazing.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Come back on Monday for another installment of Moving Kryptonian Images. Tyler Patrick and I are talking about Superman Unbound. And then, in two weeks, another Summer Special where I go solo and talk about the various number one issues Superman has had.

Welcome to a...dare I write it...SUPER sized installment of the podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

This time out I am shaking up the format. Slightly. This time I am joined by old friend Charlie Niemeyer (host of Charlie's Geekcast and Ranger Chronicles) to talk about Superman vs. The Elite, the 2012 animated adaptation of 2001's Action Comics #775. What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way is considered by many Superman fans to be a stone cold classic, and the movie adaptation seems to be well regarded as well. Charlie and I talk about both the comic and the movie and while there are many aspects of both that we liked we also have some reservations about them. We talk about the cultural climate of 2001 and, to a lesser extent, 2012 (when the movie came out) as well as the animation, the story, how I really wanted an overt homage to Rocky IV at one point in the film, and the differences between the ending of the movie and the comic.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALL!

After the comic/movie talk, I present audio that was recorded at the 2017 DragonCon in Atlanta, Georgia. That year I had the honor of co-moderating a panel with Comics and Pop Art programming director Tony Barleta started with everyone watching Superman vs. The Elite (I didn't record that part) and was followed by a Q and A with Joe Kelly himself! The audio quality is not the best at times, especially when it came to audience questions, but this was a fun panel and Joe was the nicest guy ever and revealed some fun behind the scenes stories about the movie and his time writing Action Comics.

Once again I want to thank Charlie for being on this episode. We've known each other a long time and it was great reconnecting with him about this movie. Be sure to check out Charlie's Geekcast and Ranger Chronicles.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Moving Kryptonian Images continues with Tyler Patrick of The Krypton Report joining me to talk about Superman Unbound!

The first full trailer for James Gunn's Superman film dropped on May 14th and because there is a little-known federal law that was passed with full bipartisan support several years ago that states if you are a Superman content creator and a new Superman trailer (teaser or otherwise) drops, you have to do a reaction video/episode within 10 business days or face substantial fines and possibly jail time. Given how well I would do in prison (or rather how well I wouldn't do in prison) and the fact that I couldn't pay any kind of fine, substantial or otherwise, I thought it would be better to get this done as soon as possible.

Joining me to talk about the trailer is my good friend Jon M Wilson, who you might know from such podcasts as Superman in Crisis, Babylon 5: Thirty Years Later, and 90s Ninjas and Bots, and we have a grand old time talking about the trailer. Actually, we talk about the trailers for Superman The Movie, Superman Returns, Man of Steel, and discuss how those films were marketed and then we do the breakdown of the new trailer. From David's Superman voice to our first real look at Lois to how adorable Krypto is to the Kents being alive, Jon and I cover all of that and more. It's two and a half hours of Superman talk with a few digressions and some snark just for fun.

Be sure to check out Jon's podcasting work. You can do that by going to his websitte, Jon Reads Comics.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Moving Kryptonian Images continues with Charlie Niemeyer, who joins me to talk about Superman vs. The Elite! And soon...Rob and Alan from All-Star Superfan join me to talk about Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow!

Welcome to another cells exploding installment of a podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

This time out I am joined by Russ Burlingame (journalist and author of The Gold Exchange: The Unofficial Booster Gold Companion and Best Movie Ever: An Oral History of Kaplan and Elfront's Josie and the Pussycats) to talk about 2011's All-Star Superman. Russ and I cover a lot of ground in this episode because of how beloved the original comic book version has become. We talk about how well the movie adapted the source material, the things they left out, they way both the comic book and movie treated Lex Luthor compared to how other writers have in the past twenty years, the ending, what people are looking for in a Superman film compared to a Superman television series, and so much more. We also go on several digressions about the upcoming James Gunn film that somehow come back to the main conversation.

Once again, I'd like to thank Russ for joining me. Be sure to check out his books The Gold Exchange: The Unofficial Booster Gold Companion and Best Movie Ever: An Oral History of Kaplan and Elfront's Josie and the Pussycats as well as his work on ECV Analog and Oni Press. And keep an eye out 0n August 15th for his Time to Be Heroes book about the CW's Legends of Tomorrow series comes out.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Moving Kryptonian Images continues with Charlie Niemeyer, who joins me to talk about Superman vs. The Elite!

Welcome to another apocalyptic installment of a podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

This time out I welcome Doctor Anj (of the Supergirl: Comic Box Commentary blog) to talk about Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, which adapts the Superman/Batman: Supergirl storyline. Not that you could tell from the title of the movie and that's one of the things that Anj and I talk about. Other topics include, but are not limited to, how this storyline brought the Kara Zor-El Supergirl back to the mainstream DCU, the character designs, the animation, the Fourth World, Darkseid, and the Supergirl series that followed the Superman/Batman arc.

Again, be sure to check out Anj's blog, Supergirl: Comic Box Commentary. He's been writing about Supergirl since 2007, so not only is it full of great reviews and commentary, but it's also a natural history of Supergirl over the past seventeen years.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to [email protected]. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Moving Kryptonian Images continues with Russell Burlingame joining me to talk about All-Star Superman!