This first episode of Exvangelical features a long, free-form with American religious historian Dr. Jonathan Dodrill, who is a longtime friend of mine. We discuss how we met at Christian college, our experiences there, as well as how our viewpoints have changed since then. We also spend a good amount of time talking about modern evangelical politics, the current election cycle, and the baffling case of Donald Trump. This conversation was originally recorded on 6/28/16 and has been edited. Frank language is occasionally used, so be wary of young ears.

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