It Gets Late Early: Career Tips for Tech Employees in Midlife and Beyond

The world population is aging, and with 10,000 people turning 65 daily, new opportunities are emerging in the tech industry. So, today, we're exploring the AgeTech revolution with Cathy Minter, the CEO and co-founder of Wisdom.io. 

AgeTech? Yeah, it's a thing, and it's been quietly changing the game since 2016. But we're not talking about teaching your grandparents to code (although they definitely could…because we never stop learning new things, remember?). We're talking about everything from "I need to plan my will" apps to smart homes that won't let you forget your meds.

Now, Cathy's not just some tech guru who decided to cash in on the “silver tsunami,” aka demographic change. Nope, she's got skin in the game. Her journey into AgeTech is like a roller coaster ride through personal loss, family drama, and a "wait, why isn't there an app for that?" moment during the pandemic. You'll want to hear how being the baby of the family turned her towards tech founderdom.

Cathy's not just about keeping old folks "aging in place" (a term that has got to go, btw). She's all about living well independently as long as possible. And boy, does she have stories to tell about navigating the gender bias and ageism in the tech world. From trying to look older in her 30s (because apparently, corporate tech leadership and youth don't mix) to dealing with the subtle "oh, honey" vibes in her 50s, Cathy's seen it all.

So, if you're curious about how AgeTech is gearing up to make our golden years truly golden, or if you just want to hear some juicy tales from Silicon Valley, this episode's got you covered.

“I asked one of the older adults in our focus group about aging in place, and she said it’s just about living life to the fullest for the time that you have.” 

- Cathy Minter

In This Episode:

- Introduction to AgeTech and its ability to improve lives

-Cathy’s journey to founding Wisdom.io

-The sandwich generation and the future of age tech

-Navigating career growth and gender bias in the workplace

-Barriers to AgeTech adoption for older adults

-Redefining “aging in place”

-Ageism in the tech industry

-Innovation gaps in the tech sector for older adults

-The value of mentorship and intergenerational collaboration

And much more!

Connect with Cathy Minter:

-Website: https://www.mywisdom.io/ 

-LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyminter

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

In this solo episode, I break down the recent controversy surrounding a career guide published by Indeed, the world’s largest job site, with 365 million daily users and over 3.5 million employers. Here’s a teaser: The guide labeled ages 45-55 as “late career” and 55-65 as “decline,” sparking an outcry over its ageist language.

I stumbled across the uproar late one night on LinkedIn and decided to post my thoughts, which quickly went viral. Indeed responded within hours, issuing an apology and removing the offensive content, but the damage was already done!

The guide perpetuated harmful stereotypes, like the idea that workers in their 40s and 50s should aim for less demanding roles and stop learning new skills. This couldn’t be further from the truth—many of us are thriving in our careers at this stage, with plenty of energy and ambition.

While I appreciate how quickly Indeed responded, I still question how the management allowed the guide to be published in the first place. It raises concerns about whether they truly support an age-inclusive work environment. But this situation has opened up an important conversation about ageism, and I’m hopeful it will lead to lasting change.

Can several viral posts on LinkedIn really change how a major corporation thinks about age? Join me as we explore how this Indeed debacle can serve as a catalyst for real change in tackling ageism in the workplace. Don't worry—we'll get some solid career advice and probably a few laughs too.

In This Episode:

-Introduction and overview of Indeed’s corporate values

-Personal experience with the career guide controversy

-Career stages in Indeed’s career guide

-Critique of the career guide's advice

-Raising a successor for your position

-Retirement in your forties: myth or reality?

-The "decline" era: what to expect

-The reality of ageism in the workplace

-Indeed's apology and future steps

Resources Mentioned in the Episode:

-Indeed’s live webinar on November 7, 2024, titled “Success and Satisfaction in the Later Stages of Your Career”: https://www.linkedin.com/events/7237487552620843009/ 

-Indeed’s article, “Ageism in the Workplace: Its Impact and How to Prevent It”: https://www.indeed.com/hire/c/info/ageism-in-the-workplace 

-Indeed’s article, “ADEA: An Employer's Guide to the Age Discrimination in Employment Act”: https://www.indeed.com/hire/c/info/adea#:~:text=The%20purpose%20of%20the%20ADEA,ability%20when%20making%20those%20decisions. 

-Maureen’s LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/maureenwclough_are-you-over-55-indeed-as-in-the-one-that-activity-7235228512918388738-wIYC?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

Today I've got Jamie Jackson, the brilliant mind behind 'Humorous Resources', 'Millennial Misery,' and 'Horrendous HR,' and the co-host of the HR Besties podcast. She's not just your average HR pro - she's like the standup comedian of the corporate world, using humor to keep us all from losing our minds in the 9-to-5 grind.

Jamie's hilarious social media accounts were born out of the pandemic chaos while working at a healthcare clinic. Talk about a pressure cooker situation! But instead of cracking, she turned to humor. It's like she found the secret sauce to surviving corporate America, and now she's sharing it with all of us poor souls who've felt the sting of a pink slip delivered with all the warmth of a robocall.

So, let’s talk about it! You know that feeling when you're called into a surprise meeting, and your stomach drops to your shoes? Well, Jamie has been on both sides of the table, even standing up to a company owner over a harassment claim. Spoiler alert: it cost her the job. But hey, who needs job security when you've got integrity, right?

Additionally, Jamie's got some juicy stories about being an "elder millennial" (is that even a thing?) and the double standards between older men and women. We also get into the wild world of content creation and how it's not all sunshine and rainbows for the ladies out there. Turns out, the glass ceiling isn't just in the office - it's all over social media too!

Join us for some solid anecdotes about aging, advocating for what's right, and staying true to yourself in a corporate world that sometimes feels like it's gone mad. 

"Layoffs, a lot of times, it’s really just a giant math equation. They may not even be looking at names; they’re looking at salaries. It’s not personal. You were just a part of the equation.” 

- Jamie Jackson

In This Episode:

-The inspiration behind Jamie’s humorous HR accounts

-Misconceptions about the HR role

-Why humanity and empathy are critical in corporate leadership

-The challenges HR faces when handling layoffs,

-The cost of standing up for employee’s rights in HR

-How organizations can navigate layoffs with empathy

-The rise of layoffs in tech and the loss of humanity

-Ageism in the workplace and its impact on career advancement

-Gender disparities in corporate settings

-Age perceptions and prejudices on social media

And much more!

Connect with Jamie Jackson:

-Humorous Resources: https://www.instagram.com/humorous_resources/?hl=en 

-Millennial Misery: https://www.instagram.com/millennial_misery/

-HR Besties Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hr-besties/id1712137225

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

In the last year alone, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) received nearly 81,000 charges of workplace discrimination. And here's a kicker – age discrimination made up a whopping 17.5% of those cases! This is not merely a fringe issue in our society.

In today’s episode, I sit down with Keith Sonderling, the EEOC commissioner, to explore the realities of workplace discrimination and the EEOC's role in safeguarding civil rights across the United States. Keith shares the EEOC's mission, which goes beyond enforcing anti-discrimination laws to educational initiatives that prevent discrimination and help employers and employees understand their rights and obligations. 

We're covering everything from the EEOC's birth during the Civil Rights Movement (talk about a dramatic origin story!) to the modern-day villains of age discrimination and AI bias in hiring. And trust me, some of these true stories from the workplace are pretty wild - and have resulted in some stiff penalties for the companies who got caught.

So whether you're the one signing the paychecks, the HR guru trying to keep everyone in line, or just someone who wants to know their rights, this episode is for you. Join us for a conversation that's equal parts enlightening and entertaining – because who said learning about our civil rights in the workplace can't be fun?

"If AI discriminates versus a human, the scale-ability of the discrimination is far greater than any one individual human can do. With just a few clicks, AI can eliminate millions of applications that the algorithm might identify as belonging to a protected class, amplifying bias on an unprecedented scale.”

- Keith Sonderling

In This Episode:

-The EEOC's role in preventing and remedying workplace discrimination

-Common misconceptions about the EEOC’s mission and operations

-Scope and statistics of legal cases on discrimination

-The rise of age discrimination cases: what qualifies as ageism

-The impact of AI on hiring practices and potential risks for discrimination

-Best practices for preventing age discrimination

-Practical advice for employees facing discrimination and the steps they can take

And much more!

Connect with Keith Sonderling:

-LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-sonderling 

-Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/ksonderlingeeoc

-Website: https://www.eeoc.gov/keith-e-sonderling-commissioner

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

My guests today are Elizabeth Aniskevich from the AARP Foundation and lawyer Peter Romer-Friedman, two powerhouses in the fight against age discrimination. They're here to shed light on this pervasive issue that's been hiding in plain sight (or, should we say, in plain algorithms?).

Remember when job listings could brazenly ask for "recent college grads" or specify a maximum age? Well, those days might be gone, but the discrimination just got sneakier! Elizabeth shares some stats from AARP's research: a whopping 64% of older adults have seen or felt the sting of age bias, with 40% experiencing it after hitting the big 4-0.

Additionally, Peter shares his experiences battling Silicon Valley giants and their questionable hiring practices. We dive into the world of AI and algorithms, exploring how these supposedly neutral tools might be perpetuating age bias without anyone even realizing it.

We're covering everything from sneaky job ad targeting on platforms like Meta to the subtle ways ageism creeps into workplace culture. And the best part? We're not just complaining – we're talking solutions.

So, whether you're a seasoned tech pro, a coding newbie, or just someone who believes in workplace fairness, this episode is for you. Join us for an eye-opening conversation about age, tech, and justice.

"When you're talking about recruiting people, it's very different than recruiting customers for soap or paper towels or a car. When you're recruiting for a job or a mortgage or insurance, there are laws that say you can't exclude people based on who they are, including their age.”

- Peter Romer-Friedman

In This Episode:

-AARP research findings on the prevalence of ageism and its impact

-Elizabeth's journey into civil rights litigation

-Peter’s public interest litigation work and experience 

-Age discrimination in Silicon Valley

-Intersectionality and cultural factors that compound ageism 

-How AI and algorithms perpetuate discriminatory job postings

-The burden of proof in age discrimination cases

-Workplace diversity and the value of older workers

-Positive signs and cultural shifts in ageism 

And much more!

Connect with Peter Romer-Friedman:

-Website: https://prf-law.com/ 

-LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-romer-friedman-7031576/ 

Connect with Elizabeth Aniskevich:

-Website: https://www.aarp.org/aarp-foundation/ 

-LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-aniskevich-b3690617

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

Are you feeling stuck in your career and afraid to make a bold move? John Tarnoff, the career reinvention coach and founder of the Mid-Career Lab, will shake up everything you believe about mid-career shifts, especially if you're rocking that over-40 life!

Get ready to flip the script on job loss and retirement. John shows us that getting fired is not shameful or fatal, as we’ve been made to believe.

John's not just talking the talk – he's walked the walk! He's gone from getting the boot 39% of the time in the rollercoaster world of entertainment to becoming the go-to guru for career reinvention. Talk about a plot twist, right?

And if you think the 60-year career sounds like a snooze fest, you are right! John's challenging that notion. You’ll learn to differentiate yourself in a crowded job market at any age. Spoiler alert: It's all about unleashing your inner superhero (aka your 'superpower'), leveraging relationships, and becoming a thought leader in your zone of genius!

Oh, and did I mention you might want to have your LinkedIn profile open while listening? Trust me, after hearing John's take, that green "Open-To-Work" circle might be the next thing to go!

So, if you are itching for a career change in the ageist tech world or elsewhere, you’ll love this one! We’ve got you covered with all the actionable insights to sustain career growth in a competitive job market, so tune in!

"Find your superpower... That combination of results that you deliver, philosophies of life that you bring to the table, your personality, all of those unique factors. Define that value."

- John Tarnoff

In This Episode:

-Reframing job loss as an opportunity for growth

-How to identify and leverage your superpower

-Applying the 80/20 rule in building your community

-Utilizing platforms like LinkedIn to showcase your value

-The value of a multigenerational workforce 

-Combating ageism in the tech industry

-How to position yourself as a consultant instead of unemployed

-Approaching job interviews as networking opportunities and consultative engagements

-Cultivating a mindset of continuous value delivery and consultation 

-How introverts can overcome networking challenges

-Adopting a design-thinking approach to career development 

And much more!

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

-Answer John’s four ‘Ikigai’ questions: https://johntarnoff.com/

-Bill Burnett and Dave Evans’ book, “Designing Your Life: How to Build a Well-Lived, Joyful Life:” https://a.co/d/95mGWsm

Connect with John Tarnoff:

-Website: https://midcareerlab.com/ 

-LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/johntarnoff

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

We're bringing back some comic relief of the highest order by republishing one of the all-time most downloaded episodes of It Gets Late Early, featuring genius comedian Ross Pomerantz, aka Corporate Bro (or just Corp).

If you’re newer here, you probably haven’t heard Ross’s take on getting older in general or in the ageist tech industry…and trust me, you’re gonna wanna fix that. Like, now.

If you don’t know Ross, his persona of Corporate Bro is pretty much legendary in the tech world. After spending a few years in the tech sales trenches, he has been putting out comedic videos satirizing the world of sales and tech and has amassed a massive social media following. He currently partners with brands as huge as Salesforce and DocuSign, delivers keynotes, and advises tech companies.

Since we recorded this episode, Ross has also become a podcaster. He puts out the absolutely hilarious show “Demoted” alongside co-host comedian Corporate Natalie. Definitely check it out - it’s one of my favorites.

If you aren’t into profanity (or are listening around kids), don’t enjoy sarcasm or dark humor, or are easily offended, fair warning: this episode is NOT for you, and we’ll catch you next time.

So, thanks for letting me hit the easy button for a little summer break while also delivering to you an absolute gem of an episode - either for the first time or for another round.

"I do think leadership and experience are often underappreciated. It can be a huge difference-maker in tech in motivating people and giving them perspective and wise words, whatever it may be, but also even catharsis and therapy to the younger folks."

- Ross Pomerantz

In This Episode:

-Why Ross thinks tech companies are youth-dominated

-Where will Corporate Bro be in ten years? Hint: maybe drop the “Bro”

-How Ross’s humor plays differently with Gen Z vs. older people

-Ross’s feelings about facing ageism - and his first “ism”  

-How Ross works well with both younger and older people alike

-Ross’s experience in producing "Sales are Dope" (S.A.D.)

-Ross’s true feelings on influencers and TikTok

-What Taylor Swift and Ross have in common

-How Ross feels about getting older

-Where Ross thinks older employees bring value

-The grind of content creation

And much more!

Resources:

-Sales are Dope (S.A.D.) Series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3NoHBNSs00Y7I82f6h_6KyWM3b9pjmmQ

-Gavin DeGraw clip mentioned: https://www.tiktok.com/@corporate.bro/video/7196785042696457518

Connect with Ross Pomerantz:

-Website: https://corporatebro.com/

-Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/demoted/id1725899994 

-LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corporatebro/

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/corporate.bro/

-TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@corporate.bro

-Threads - https://www.threads.net/@corporate.bro?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

The fantastic Jen Saarbach and Kristen Kelly from “The Wall Street Skinny” podcast join me today for a candid and super fun crossover episode on the challenges women face breaking into and growing their careers in the male-dominated industries of Tech and Finance.

Jen and Kristen tell us how they started “The Wall Street Skinny” to democratize access to the world of high finance via their incredible podcast and lighthearted but value-packed social media posts. Turns out there’s more to the industry than we see in the movie The Wolf of Wall Street with Leo DiCaprio and Margot Robbie! Who knew?!

We all shared some of our career horror stories, including Jen’s (which she turned into a hilarious viral video) about how being a few minutes late to an interview can completely derail your shot at a big job. They also share that Wall Street is actually accessible to…English majors?!

But it's not just the hurdles of getting your foot in the door. Once you're in, we all face ageism (either levied against the young or the old, depending on the industry - we’ll reveal what we mean here!) and sexism through microaggressions, lack of mentorship opportunities, and assumptions. We dive into these realities and highlight the importance of age diversity in both industries.

We also discuss AI’s double-edged sword—its potential to both automate away jobs and also revolutionize fields like gene editing.

So whether you're well-established in your career or just getting started, our chat has you covered. Did I mention we had a lot of fun? Join us for our wide-ranging but impactful conversation.

"We have structured society so differently than it was historically so that you aren't hitting the same milestones. You aren't necessarily graduating from college at 22, going to business school at 25, getting married at 30, having kids by 35, retiring at 65. Those milestones have all shifted and are no longer fixed points." 

- Jen Saarbach

In This Episode:

-Challenges and opportunities for women in finance

-Ageism in the tech industry

-Women representation and role models in finance and tech

-The challenges of starting a career in the finance industry

-The apprenticeship model in finance and its impact on career paths

-Challenges of entering finance later in life

-The importance of age diversity in finance and tech

-The role of venture capitalists in guiding founders

-The impact of AI on career paths

And much more!

Learn Finance From The Wall Street Skinny:

-Website: https://www.thewallstreetskinny.com/

-Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-wall-street-skinny/id1680425507 

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewallstreetskinny/ 

-TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewallstreetskinny 

Connect with Jen Saarbach:

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifersaarbach/ 

-LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-saarbach-realtor 

Connect with Kristen Kelly:

-LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristen-kelly-71bb7814

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

Ever wonder what it takes to build and sell a tech company for millions without venture capital? Well, we've got the inside story straight from the source!

Today I'm chatting with Sharon Gillenwater, a trailblazing entrepreneur who did just that - she built and sold her tech company (Boardroom Insiders) for a cool $25 million, all without relying on VC funding! She is the author of Scaling with Soul, which chronicles how she built, scaled, and sold her company.

Sharon's not your typical tech founder - in fact, she didn't even have a technical background when she started her company. But she proved that you don't need to be a coder to succeed in the startup world. 

Sharon shares her unconventional entrepreneurial journey, the challenges she faced as a woman in tech, and the surprising advantage of being an "older" entrepreneur.

We'll also get the scoop on Sharon's viral TikTok fame, the truth about VC funding (hint: you don't always need it!), and her mission to democratize entrepreneurship and create more respectful workplaces.

Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or just curious about the wild world of tech startups, you don't want to miss this episode. Sharon's story is proof that you can absolutely make it big in this industry, even if you don't fit the mold, so tune in!

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"You don't have to be a Mark Zuckerberg to be an entrepreneur. Or a Sarah Blakely. You can be a Sharon Gillenwater and make all your retirement money and have a great retirement. And you don't have to take venture capital." 

- Sharon Gillenwater

In This Episode:

-How Sharon built and sold a $25m tech company without venture capital

-How to overcome self-doubt and insecurity as an entrepreneur

-Women’s experience in entrepreneurship in the 80s

-The downside of venture capital funding for founders

-How to identify business opportunities

-Employee care strategies and the importance of a positive work culture

-Employment challenges in the tech industry

-Sharon's TikTok fame and content creation journey

-Navigating business exits after venture capital funding

And much more!

Resources:

-Scaling With Soul: How I Built & Sold a $25 Million Tech Company Without Being an A**hole - https://www.amazon.com/Scaling-Soul-Million-Company-Without/dp/1964377013 

Connect with Sharon Gillenwater:

-Website: https://www.sharonkgillenwater.com/ 

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sharonkgillenwater/

-TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sharonkgillenwater 

-LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonkgillenwater/

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

-Facebook: It Gets Late Early - https://www.facebook.com/people/It-gets-late-early/100088694515585/

In a recent study by Fortune, one in five Gen Z’s reported not having spoken to anyone over 50 in the workplace in the last year, while 40% of people over 55 said they hadn't talked to a Gen Z. How did we get here?

How do we bridge this generational divide? Are the five generations at work a challenge to overcome, or are they an overlooked source of strength? 

Today I host the brilliant Professor Megan Gerhardt, founder and author of Gentelligence. Megan challenges the lazy stereotypes that pit generations against each other. She advocates for understanding our differences as an opportunity for mutual growth and innovation. 

One concept that really resonated was Megan's vision for "mutual mentoring" – an approach that replaces traditional top-down mentorship with a reciprocal exchange of knowledge and perspectives. 

So, whether you're a tech titan grappling with a multi-generational workforce or simply seeking to bridge the gap with colleagues from different age groups, this conversation is for you. 

Tune in to learn how you can foster smarter intergenerational conversations to transform your workplace into an environment where every generation feels valued and empowered.

“I believe generations matter, but they certainly are not everything. They are the beginning of the conversation to me, not the end of the conversation.” 

- Megan Gerhardt

In This Episode:

-An introduction to the Gentelligence concept

-The importance of age in the DE&I conversations

-Intergenerational warfare and generational labels

-Practical tools for smarter intergenerational conversations

-How to leverage generational norms

-The impact of remote work on workplace engagement and identity

-How to build intergenerational friendships

-Why mutual mentorship is beneficial

And much more.

Resources: 

-Purchase Professor Megan's book “Gentelligence”: https://a.co/d/ckOhax9 

-Join Gentelligence Academy: https://gentelligenceacademy.com/ 

Connect with Professor Megan Gerhardt:

-Website: https://profgerhardt.com/

-LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megangerhardt

Connect with Maureen Clough:

-Instagram: @itgetslateearly - https://www.instagram.com/itgetslateearly/

-YouTube: @itgetslateearly - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrHwk-y7ERaq7bCSjZYf1A?sub_confirmation=1

-Website: itgetslateearly.com - https://www.itgetslateearly.com/

-LinkedIn: @maureenwclough - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maureenwclough/

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