As former ABC chair Ita Buttrose promotes her latest book Jan and Antoinette pull apart the plentiful puff pieces. 

Antoinette hunts for proof of Melbourne’s machete epidemic and finds it exists mainly in headlines.  

Plus who is watching free to air TV… no really who? Because we crunched some numbers and they don't add up. 

Also a double shout out to the Labor Party (yes, shocking): first for new AI laws that make it harder for big tech to take artists’ work for free, and second to the junior staffer whose leaked memo lays out the party’s Gaza gaslighting talking points.

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