It's a Numbers Game

It's a Numbers Game

By Daniel WellingBusinessManagement
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It's a Numbers Game episodes

  • EP093 – Mastering the art of pricing with Mark Peacock

    In this episode of 'It's a Numbers Game,' hosts Adam and Daniel are joined by special guest Mark Peacock, a pricing expert who runs the company Pricemaker. Mark discusses the crucial, yet often overlooked, area of pricing and shares effective strategies for business growth. The conversation covers the psychology of pricing, client profitability analysis, and the importance of annual price increases. Key insights include the impact of small price changes on net profit, the concept of price anchoring, and segmenting clients for tailored price adjustments. Mark emphasises the need for confidence in pricing decisions and offers practical tips for MSPs and businesses to enhance their pricing power. The episode also touches on common psychological barriers to proper pricing and aims to demystify this often daunting area. This engaging and valuable discussion is a must-listen for business owners looking to improve their bottom line.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:18 The Importance of Pricing in Business

    07:54 Understanding Client Profitability

    13:41 Annual Price Increases

    22:33 The Psychology of Pricing

    31:36 Conclusion and Contact Information

    DM Adam or Daniel to request a copy of the "Raise your prices without raising eyebrows" guide.

    Connect with Mark Peacock on LinkedIn by clicking here –https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-peacock-pricemaker

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    36 min
  • EP092 – Optimise Your Client Experience with Nicole Stracey from AnswerConnect

    In this podcast episode, Nicole Stracey, the Growth and Partnership Manager at AnswerConnect UK, joins the host to discuss the benefits and intricacies of using a 24/7 live answering service for Managed Service Providers (MSPs) across the UK, US, and Canada. Nicole explains how AnswerConnect supports MSPs by handling customer calls around the clock, allowing IT specialists to focus on their core tasks while ensuring clients receive immediate attention and resolution of their issues. The conversation covers the importance of customer service in the IT sector, the training of AnswerConnect's agents, the integration with client systems, and the customisable scripting that ensures seamless operations. The episode also touches on the global nature of business today, the significance of first impressions, and practical use cases for MSP owners to implement such a service. Lastly, a shared interest in Formula One is briefly mentioned, making for a well-rounded discussion on improving customer service through effective call handling.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:20 Nicole's Role and AnswerConnect Overview

    01:09 Importance of 24/7 Support for MSPs

    04:48 How AnswerConnect Integrates with MSPs

    09:10 Training and Handling Customer Calls

    11:53 Customisation and Client Expectations

    21:37 Internationalisation and Global Support

    27:22 Conclusion and Contact Information

    Connect with Nicole Stacey on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolestracey

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    31 min
  • EP091 – Secrets to boosting your MSP lead gen via local SEO with Louis Veldhuijzen

    In this episode, Louis returns to discuss developments in SEO and local lead generation for Managed Service Providers (MSPs). Louis highlights the importance of MSPs taking advantage of local SEO, especially using Google Maps profiles, to attract leads. He emphasises the need for MSPs to build an attractive and trustworthy Google Business profile with plenty of positive reviews. Louis also introduces a new self-implementation product designed to help MSPs take control of their marketing efforts and save costs, stressing the significance of a collaborative approach between owners and marketers. Daniel and Adam reiterate the importance of prioritising sales and marketing for business growth.

    00:00 Welcome Back, Louis!

    00:23 Current Trends in MSP Lead Generation

    01:46 The Power of Local SEO

    03:28 Niche Marketing Strategies for MSPs

    06:46 Optimizing Your Google Business Profile

    14:34 The Importance of Reviews

    20:51 Introducing a New Lead Generation Product

    27:16 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

    Connect with Louis Veldhuijzen on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/lodewijk-veldhuijzen/

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    31 min
  • EP090 – Security, Innovation, and Market Insight with Mark Lamb

    In this podcast episode, Adam Morris speaks with Mark Lamb, founder of HighGround, about his journey from running a Managed Service Provider (MSP) to developing a software product. Mark discusses the challenges of helping customers understand their IT spend and the transition from service-based to product-based business models. He elaborates on the mistakes made during the software development and the lessons learned, including the importance of visually demonstrating IT spend to customers. Mark also shares insights on the evolving role of MSPs, the importance of a VCIO, and how HighGround aims to enhance MSP sales and cybersecurity posture. The episode concludes with Mark providing three tips for MSPs looking to develop software products and reflecting on the future of IT services.

    00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene

    00:12 The Origin Story of High Ground

    00:26 Challenges Faced by MSPs

    01:35 Transitioning from MSP to Software Development

    02:27 Lessons Learned in Software Development

    04:38 Funding and Initial Development

    06:00 Pivoting the Product Focus

    06:56 Launching and Iterating the Product

    07:50 Emotional Journey and Team Contributions

    09:24 Top Tips for Building a Software Product

    11:07 Addressing MSP Client Challenges

    14:16 High Ground's Visual Tools and Features

    19:53 Future Vision and Industry Trends

    27:41 Conclusion and Contact Information

    Connect with Mark Lamb on LinkedIn by clicking here –https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-lamb-13077918/

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    31 min
  • EP089 – From Hosted Desktops to Cybersecurity, A Chat with Simon Luck

    In this podcast episode, Simon discusses his journey and current endeavors in the Managed Service Provider (MSP) world, including his background in IT and the establishment of his MSP business, Host My Office, 12 years ago. Simon delves into the benefits and challenges of hosted desktop solutions, particularly for professional services like accountants and legal firms, and predicts its relevance for about another decade. The conversation then shifts to cyber security, with Simon explaining the genesis and operations of his new business, Cyber Guards, which provides a comprehensive security platform to other MSPs. Key points include the integration of security products, the importance of simplifying tech for easier client understanding, and the value of continuous evaluation and collaboration within MSP businesses.

    00:00 Welcome and Introduction

    00:05 Simon's Journey into the MSP World

    02:07 Hosted Desktop: Evolution and Relevance

    08:06 Cyber Security: The New Frontier

    11:10 Navigating MSP and Cyber Security Solutions

    16:08 Simplifying Security for MSPs

    28:13 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

    Connect with Simon Luck on LinkedIn by clicking here –https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsupportsoutheast/?originalSubdomain=uk

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    32 min
  • EP088 – How one person can build a scalable MSP with outsourcing and a clear strategy with Alex Stanier

    In this episode, the Adam and Daniel welcome Alex, an inspiring one-person MSP, to discuss his unique journey. The conversation covers his experience working in various IT roles, including his time at BBC and the 2012 Olympics broadcast team. Alex shares his decision to avoid hiring staff and instead leverage outsourced services, describing his model'. They discuss the nuances of managing small to medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) without servers, focusing on client resilience and immediate support solutions. Additionally, Alex sheds light on his networking strategies, particularly through BNI (Business Network International), and emphasises the importance of building quality referral relationships. The conversation shifts to the debate on artificial vs. actual intelligence, where Alex gives his perspective on ChatGPT and Microsoft recent innovations in AI. Finally, Alex shares a unique, offbeat request related to his work with coal power station ash waste and its applications. The episode provides invaluable insights into creating a sustainably successful one-person MSP and navigating the evolving AI landscape.

    00:00 Welcome and Introduction

    00:05 Meeting at Tech Tribe

    00:25 Inspiration Behind London Tech Tribe

    00:45 Today's Topics: AI vs Actual Intelligence

    00:58 Alex's Business Journey

    02:52 The Catalyst: Outsourcing IT Helpdesk

    04:17 Focus on Small Clients and Resilience

    05:33 The Importance of 24/7 IT Helpdesk

    07:01 Running a One-Person MSP

    08:48 Field Service and Onsite Needs

    14:15 Marketing and New Business Strategies

    16:07 BNI: A Pillar of Growth

    17:48 The Importance of Networking Groups

    18:48 Strategies for Effective Networking

    20:40 Building Quality Relationships

    22:50 Artificial Intelligence vs. Actual Intelligence

    24:54 Microsoft's AI Integration

    29:44 Opportunities in AI for MSPs

    34:09 Concluding Thoughts and Shameless Plugs

    Connect with Alex Stanier on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/astanier/

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    38 min
  • EP087 – Unlocking Revenue Potential in MSP Contracts with Kim Simmonds

    In this episode of 'It's a Numbers Game,' Daniel and Adam welcome back legal expert Kim Simmonds discussing MSP (Managed Service Provider) contracts, shifting the focus from risk mitigation to revenue generation. They discuss how contracts can prevent revenue leakage through strategies such as service credits, proper termination clauses, and exit transition clauses. Kim emphasises the importance of using your own well-crafted templates and the pitfalls of relying on client-provided contracts. They also touch upon practical credit management, handling insolvency scenarios, and learning about the Insolvency Act. The episode wraps up with a brief look at Kim's SaaS platform, Cloud Contract 365, which helps MSPs create, manage, and review contracts efficiently.

    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:32 Contracts as Revenue Generating Tools

    01:53 Key Contract Clauses for MSPs

    03:09 Service Level Agreements (SLAs) and Penalties

    07:33 Exit Transition Clauses and Termination

    13:28 Handling Client Non-Payment

    19:57 Revenue Protection Strategies

    25:17 Cloud Contracts 365 Overview

    29:12 Final Thoughts and Future Topics

    When UK suppliers must continue to supply insolvent companies

    Connect with Kim Simmonds on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimsimmonds/

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    33 min
  • EP086 – When to Choose a Reseller Over a Distributor with Vincent O'Hanlon

    This episode explores the decisions MSPs face when choosing between resellers and distributors for procurement. Vincent, a seasoned industry professional, joins hosts Adam and Daniel to share valuable insights on benefits and risks, pricing strategies, and building trust in supplier relationships. They discuss the importance of efficient service, managing cash flow, and mitigating risks associated with working with partners. Vincent also highlights how to leverage strong relationships and the importance of proactive client interactions to add value. The conversation encompasses various facets of the MSP business, from managing credit to enhancing service delivery through strong, trust-based relationships.

    00:00 Introduction and Topic Overview

    00:26 Building Trust with Resellers

    00:50 Case Study: Overcoming Cash Flow Issues

    03:22 Pricing Strategies and Market Dynamics

    06:12 Challenges with Distribution and Vendor Relationships

    09:29 Value-Added Services and Long-Term Relationships

    15:44 Navigating Credit and Payment Terms

    20:20 Tips for New Businesses and MSPs

    26:37 Conclusion and Contact Information

    Connect with Vincent O'Hanlon on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/vohanlon/

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    30 min
  • EP085 – Unpacking Budget Surprises for MSPs

    In this episode of "It's a Numbers Game" Daniel Welling is joined by resident accountant Chas Roopra to analyse Rachel Reeve's first budget and its implications for businesses, especially MSPs. They discuss the unchanged corporation tax rates and pension legislation, and highlight key changes like the upcoming increase in national minimum wage, unaltered tax allowances leading to a stealth tax, and adjustments to employer NI rates and allowances. The episode also covers changes to capital gains tax, specifically for business asset disposals, offering insights into tax planning opportunities for MSP owners. Key takeaways include the importance of budgeting, projecting director salaries, and understanding potential tax liabilities.

    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:32 Overview of the Budget

    01:08 Unchanged Policies

    02:38 Key Changes in the Budget

    05:14 Impact on Employers and Employees

    10:45 Capital Gains Tax and Business Asset Disposal

    16:35 Actionable Takeaways for MSP Owners

    18:47 Final Thoughts and Conclusion

    Connect with Chas Ropra on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/chas-roopra-44250410

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    For more information on the Profit Protector click here: https://mspfinanceteam.com/profit-protector/

    22 min
  • EP084 – Operational Excellence with Michelle Coombs

    In this episode of "It's a Numbers Game" host Adam and co-host Dan are joined by Michelle Coombs from the Tech Leader Network to discuss operational effectiveness and efficiency in managed service providers (MSPs). The conversation covers key strategies for improving MSP performance, including prioritising customer satisfaction, ensuring accountability in service delivery, and setting clear objectives. Michelle shares her extensive experience across various industries, providing practical advice on how MSPs can enhance their operations to become more efficient, profitable, and maintain stronger customer relationships. The episode also touches on the importance of holding regular reviews, logging time, and the balance of internal and outsourced service delivery models.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:23 Operational Effectiveness and Efficiency

    02:03 Customer First Approach

    04:18 Balancing Customer Needs and MSP Objectives

    07:46 Escalation Processes and Red Flag Meetings

    12:55 Accountability and Job Descriptions

    18:51 Hiring and Team Dynamics

    23:09 Cascading Objectives and Measuring Success

    29:12 Conclusion and Contact Information

    Connect with Michelle Coombs on LinkedIn by clicking here –https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-coombs/

    Connect with Daniel Welling on LinkedIn by clicking here – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-welling-54659715/

    Connect with Adam Morris on LinkedIn by clicking here – linkedin.com/in/adamcmorris

    Visit The MSP Finance Team website, simply click here – https://www.mspfinanceteam.com/

    We look forward to catching up with you on the next one. Stay tuned!

    33 min

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