It's a Process

Raychael Stine is a painter who lives and works in Albuquerque, NM. She received her BFA at UT Dallas in 2003, and her MFA at UIC in Chicago in 2010. Raychael is currently an Associate Professor of Painting and Drawing at the University of New Mexico, where she has taught since 2013. Raychael and I are currently showing alongside each other in a 2-person show titled The Tenderness at Emma Gray HQ in Los Angeles (on view through October 5th) which features new paintings which were all made with paint that was gifted from the studio of the late and wonderful painter Susan Rothenberg. In this episode, we talk about the amazing story of how the paint came to Raychael, how she came to share the paint with me, the impact of Rothenberg on both of our work, Raychael’s process and inspirations, of which dogs are a big part of,  as well as music, color, and light. Other topics include hiddenness and surprise, animals as a doorway to love, sensuality, and feeling, following your instincts, painting the interconnectedness of things, intellect vs physicality, handling criticism, a defense of tenderness and Celine Dion, Howard Hodgkins, and the ruinousness of irony.

The title of the show “The Tenderness” comes from a quote by Rothenberg: “In the paintings where it's there—the tenderness—I work for it. I'm not afraid of it. If I could put my bleeding heart in there, I would.”

The Tenderness at Emma Gray HQ
https://emmagrayhq.com/the-Tenderness-Raychael-Stine-Jennifer-Sullivan

Raychael Stine website
https://raychaelstine.com/home.html

Susan Rothenberg: Emotions, Art21
https://youtu.be/PPOkhiIWHHg?si=gIbZ-yZizdtuDiso

Oral history interview with Susan Rothenberg, 1987 May 22-June 2
https://www.aaa.si.edu/collections/interviews/oral-history-interview-susan-rothenberg-12631

Susan Rothenberg interview by Grace Glueck, July 22, 1984
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/07/22/magazine/susan-rothenberg.html

Sean Cairns is a painter, living in Dallas, Texas. He just closed a solo show at 12.26 Gallery in Dallas, titled Wearing Away The Mountain. We had a really great conversation about many things including why landscape may be the hardest genre of painting, using the element of surprise, not working from a formula, the freedom to be yourself in your work, spirituality as a process, nature as inspiration, why painting can never die, Andrei Tarkovsky and what I call a “cinematic” quality in his work, and “going off script” / making up your own reality.

https://gallery1226.com/Sean-Cairns

I catch up with Zuriel Waters for a second time on location from his Spring solo exhibition Jitterbug Waltz at Kathryn Markel Fine Arts, and later we chat a bit more from a really good taco spot in Chelsea. Conversation topics include color theory, musical inspirations, the speed and rhythm of painting, what motivates Zuri's forms, spirituality and wanting to be a cult lead, and even touch on Quentin Tarantino. Please enjoy the first of this new season of It's a Process interviews!

https://zurielwaters.com/

https://www.markelfinearts.com/exhibitions/175/works/

New logo, new theme song, new attitude! We’re returning to the world of podcasting after a very long absence! I share my thoughts on the future of the pod and also do my first solo episode discussing my love of the German painter Paula Modersohn-Becker (1876-1907) and the wonderful and moving survey of her work currently on view at the Neue Galerie in NYC. Also, special thanks for the cool new re-design of the podcast logo, theme song, and audio assistance by the amazing Kiara Larrabee!!

https://www.neuegalerie.org/modersohnbecker2024

For the season 2 premiere of It’s a Process, I talk to artist Whitney Hubbs! We talk about the release of her new book Say So, her 2020 solo show Animal, Hole, Selfie, and her performative process. We also talk about influences, working with vulnerability, relationships to the audience and vanity, having fun in the studio, Polanski’s Bitter Moon, sorting and editing, the intimacy of making a book, the transformations of midlife, grappling with mortality, sexuality, and failure, having a trusted support system of friends, thinking about death, new work,  the role of the studio, letting things happen, making autobiographical work, and growing up in LA in the presence of Hollywood.

http://www.whitneyhubbs.com/

https://www.situations.us/whitney-hubbs

Say So book: https://shop.selfpublishbehappy.com/products/say-so-by-whitney-hubbs

https://bombmagazine.org/articles/character-studies-whitney-hubbs-interviewed/

Zuriel Waters is a painter who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. We talk about his current solo show Bug City at Left Field Gallery in Los Osos, CA. We also talk about going from all face to all feelers, jazz as a metaphor, figures without a ground, painting as problem solving, giving himself a deadline, escaping narrative, creating a progression, playing the saxophone, sewing paintings, from the practical to the aesthetic, learning to love Murray and Mondrian, holding yourself accountable, painting for mistakes, choosing colors that are inevitable, doodling as a starting point, utopia as an end game, and making things that you can live with.

http://www.leftfieldgallery.com/bug-city-zuriel-waters

http://zurielwaters.com/index.html

https://www.maakemagazine.com/zuriel-waters

Susumu Kamijo is a painter who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. He currently has a solo show on view in Tokyo, Japan at Maki Gallery titled Beyond The Hills, and is also in a group show at Venus over Manhattan in NYC. We discuss his moving to the US at age 16, why talking to writers is better than painters, how poodles entered the work and how they have changed, mixing opposites, the poodle as an entranceway to his world, the intensity of De Kooning, feeling like your work is dorky, the absurdity of choosing to paint poodles, feeling the capacity to encompass the fucked up part of you, performing comedy in the past as a challenge, painting as an expression of the subconscious, letting unexpected things happen, finding joy in the studio, using meditation but trying not to be cringe about it, the earlier years, the importance of friends in his development, having faith that he would be able to make it as an artist, finding inspiration in other peoples death, his mentor relationship with Denzil Hurley, and a story about Susumu’s MFA experience.

Susumu Kamijo - Beyond The Hills, Maki Gallery
https://www.makigallery.com/exhibitions_en/4910/

https://www.jackhanley.com/artists/susumu-kamijo

Akira Kurosawa - Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcXk_PLrHp8

In Memoriam – Denzil Hurley
https://art.washington.edu/news/2021/07/01/memoriam-denzil-hurley

Clinton King is a painter living and working in Brooklyn, NY. We talk about his recent solo show Free Radical at Allouche Benias Gallery in Greece, and a residency at Fores Project in London over a bottle of rosé. Other topics include Jungian analysis, alchemy, working with shadow, introversion vs extroversion, abstraction as a universal and a way to communicate the unknowable, having breakthroughs, Clinton’s hypnotic meme video, connection and response, art as a living thing, dreaming of the new work, the vastness of the unconscious, putting obstacles in your own way, aging, death, and chain reactions, the balance of opposites, making an art out of transitions, working with liminal space, live tarot card readings!!, and why Stanley Kubrick’s 2001 is the best movie of all time.

https://www.clintonkingart.com/

https://allouchebenias.com/exhibitions/free-radical

http://www.foresproject.org/

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/julie-curtiss-clinton-king-1788015

Cymatics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmsfuj1Rk9c

Judd / Marfa
https://chinati.org/

Fred Sandback
https://www.fredsandbackarchive.org/

John Dee's spirit mirror
https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/john-dees-spirit-mirror#

Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BqnN72OlqA

Kubrick’s 2001 and the meaning of the monolith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSo6s_xrj4c

Cheryl Donegan is an artist who lives and works in NYC. We talk about work/life balance, taking it to the next level, the pain of transitions, the relationship between painting and video, the ongoing influence of indirect methods of childhood picture making, mediated and temporary, finding your native experiences and attractions, asking questions about painting through video, Alice Neel and morbidity, how does painting let the digital into it’s body, intervening on the ready made, Home Depot materials, the desire for control vs letting go, being an artist’s artist, indulging in formative memories, starting from scratch and moving towards beauty, what people do when they get over themselves, art and aging, Yoko Ono, Gena Rowlands, being too much, Raster Stars, Bresson’s Mouchette as the original punk, little book of martyrs, tracksuits, junkspace and irrational geometry, colorforms, step by step breakdown of her recent painting process, Cezanne and Zola, how painting seduces the digital, artists books as a way of thinking through motifs, and learning to paint with emotions.

https://cheryldonegan.com/

https://www.newmuseum.org/exhibitions/view/cheryl-donegan-scenes-commercials

https://www.aspenartmuseum.org/exhibitions/141-cheryl-donegan-grlz-veils

https://camh.org/event/cheryl-donegan/

https://davidsheltongallery.com/artists/detail/cheryl_donegan

Matthew Chambers - MONTANA WILDFLOWERS I IMAGINE I'LL SEE IN THE SPRING
https://www.praz-delavallade.com/exhibition/matthew-chambers-2017

Imi Knoebel
https://ropac.net/artists/52-imi-knoebel/

Yoko Ono - Cut Piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJ3dPwa2tI

Cassavetes / Gena Rowlands - A Woman Under the Influence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNRbcVCqt0&t=1s

Cassavete / Gena Rowlands - Opening Night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMMjcxilG8w&t=5s

Rem Koolhaas - Junkspace
https://www.readingdesign.org/junkspace

Cheryl Donegan - EAI video works
https://www.eai.org/artists/cheryl-donegan/titles

Jackie Saccoccio, obituary
https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/jackie-saccoccio-dead-abstractions-1234578300/

Amanda Friedman is an artist living in Brooklyn, NY. We met for the first in person interview at her studio and talked about current and recent work, and her solo show Everyday Drawings and Pyramids at Grifter. We also talk about her studio check in forms, “tending the garden”, everyday drawings, the slippage of mark making, going towards color and beauty, making plays (which are also paintings), Helen Rides and beat poet Helen Adams, the last live performance of her play, witchy women and desire, singing, make your own art world as a way to avoid cynicism, working for the Rosemary Mayer estate, cult figures and counter culture, how different kinds of work and found objects leads into other work, light castles and bones, transformation, ceramics, glove paintings, making things that hold themselves, art as a mirror, figuring out what the art is, Paul Thek, Andrei Rublev, using rules as an anchor point, Leonora Carrington, and paintings as keepers of secrets.

https://amandabfriedman.com/

https://g-rift-er.com/
The Kenning Anthology of Poets Theater
https://www.kenningeditions.com/shop/the-kenning-anthology-of-poets-theater-1945-1985/

Helen Adam readings/recordings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BC9rsdSdlw&t=4s

https://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Adam.php

Current Rosemary Mayer exhibition http://www.gordonrobichaux.com/rosemary-mayer.html

A Great Wagon - Rumi
https://onbeing.org/poetry/a-great-wagon/

Amanda’s uncle, Kinky Friedman:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_Friedman

Leigh Ruple
http://www.leighruple.com/

Peter Doig
https://www.michaelwerner.com/exhibitions/peter-doig2/selected-works?view=slider

Paul Thek
https://www.frieze.com/article/paul-thek-2

Andrei Rublev
https://www.criterion.com/films/300-andrei-rublev

Leonora Carrington article/show https://www.artforum.com/print/202104/chloe-wyma-on-the-tarot-of-leonora-carrington-85247 

https://www.gallerywendinorris.com/exhibitions-collection/leonora-carrington-the-story-of-the-last-egg