Danielle & Lily trade stories of their first experiences with shame. They talk lots of pee, a very special chair, and getting right on past early childhood shame. (Guest appearances by very hungry cat co-hosts.)

This week Danielle and Lily talk shopping and the various shame that comes with it. They unpack the indignities of getting stuck in clothes, the horrors of group dressing rooms, the pressure to buy, buy, buy, and finding confidence boosters in unlikely places. If you've experienced Satan's lighting, been confused by random sizing (what do they really mean!?), or fantasized about your own Pretty Woman moment, this one's for you.