Turns out, turning up the heat on Fox News really does pay dividends. New data showing that the leaked texts are seriously hurting the right-wing outrage machine. Also - What is the shift in the GOP really about? It's not about going more conservative. Joe and Alex dive into the much darker truth. Why even the optimists have turned dark. And why DeSantis' flip on Ukraine might be a huge blunder -- and why Joe calls it the final come-down from the fantasy that the GOP nomination is anything other than Trump's. Plus, a new revelation of one more "perfect phone call" from Trump to try to steal Georgia...

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