Jay Franze joins us this week!. We caught up with Jay and asked about some new equipment he is using for his podcast as well as an update on the fire pit he mentioned the last time he was on. Jim mentioned that he thought the economy was going to be challenged in 2024 and it might be a good time to think about tightening up the budget a bit and looking for some sweet deals ahead. Thanks for listening! Full show notes, transcriptions (available on request), audio and video at http://theAverageGuy.tv/hgg581 Join Jim Collison / @jcollison for show #581