Jeffery Saddoris

Sean Tucker has just released a new book called The Meaning in the Making. Over twelve chapters, using stories from his own life, as well as references from literature, art, philosophy, and religion, Sean attempts to understand and explain “the why and how behind our human need to create.” I’ve been lucky enough to hear little snippets here and there during the course of its creation, but Sean and I have never really talked about it as a complete piece of work until now. In this conversation, I’m talking to Sean about the process behind writing the book and we begin with what I thought was the most logical and maybe even obvious question: why write a book at all, and why did it have to be this one?

LINKS
The Meaning in The Making

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Website: https://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker

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MUSIC
Vibradrone by Ankori & Ramon

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In this episode, Sean Tucker and I are talking about some of the challenges of bringing focus back from our various social media platforms to our own websites, which in many ways are the only places we have online that allow us to really curate how our work is presented to an audience. We also talk about how much we miss communities and how easy it has become to simply retreat into creative isolation.

The Talented Mr. Ripley
Phantom Thread
Robin Williams’ speech in Good Will Hunting
Werner Herzog Masterclass
The Peregrine

CONNECT WITH SEAN
Website: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker

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Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

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MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq

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In this episode, we’re talking about chasing objective good in art making and selling out to please an audience versus making strategic choices to keep an audience engaged with the work we make. We also share a few things you might want to check out to help level up your inspiration.

LINKS
The Rewatchables Podcast
The Game
The Revanent
Barry Lyndon
Shot Deck
National Gallery of Art
Making the Cut
The New Propaganda, vol. 1
Dorothy Simpson Krause

CONNECT WITH SEAN
Website: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker

CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

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MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq

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In this episode, Sean talks about a recent trip to London where he may have had his most productive day of photography ever, which is a pretty bold statement. We also talk about the importance of inspirational friends as well as our shared appreciation for the work of Richard Avedon, Don McCullin, and Sally Mann.

CONNECT WITH SEAN
Website: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker

CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

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MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq

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The other day I was on the phone with Bill Wadman and it didn’t take long before Bill asked “wait, should we be rolling tape on this?” When you’ve recorded 1000 or so hours with someone, the answer is usually yes. I just wish we had been rolling from the beginning, because when Bill called, he asked what I was doing and I said that I was listening to Steve Perry. Without missing a beat, Bill launched into the opening bars of Oh Sherrie and we both started cracking up. Here's the rest of the conversation.

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Website: https://billwadman.com
Twitter: @billwadman
Instagram: @billwadman

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Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

Music in this episode
Five to One by Steve Poloni

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Brooke Shaden is one of a select few artists who manages to consistently create work that is so visceral and resonates so deeply that it makes me want to step into the picture so I can inhabit that world, even for a moment. Her work is sometimes haunting, sometimes dark, sometimes disturbing, but always interesting and challenging enough, both conceptually and technically, that I’ve been a fan for years and am always eager to see what she comes up with next. I’ve wanted to talk to her for a long time and I’m so grateful that we could make this happen.

CONNECT WITH BROOKE
Website: https://brookeshaden.com/
Facebook: Brooke Shaden Photography
Instagram: @brookeshaden

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Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

MUSIC
Normalize by Stanley Gurvich
Please Listen Carefully by Jahzzar (CC BY-SA 4.0)

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In this episode, Sean and I are talking about the idea of revisiting older work. Some people find value in looking back over what they’ve done, while others never do and instead are always looking to what comes next. While Sean and I have a few similarities around it, there are definitely some differences in how each of us relates to our previous bodies of work.

LINKS
Talking Funny (Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock, Ricky Gervais, and Louis CK)

CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

CONNECT WITH SEAN
Website: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker

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MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq

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In this episode of Deep Natter, Sean Tucker and I are talking about perfection. They say that practice makes perfect, but I think as makers, deep down most of us know that perfect really doesn’t exist. Good? Sure. Great? Maybe, occasionally. But perfect? Not in my experience. So why do we keep chasing it? Well, that’s exactly what Sean and I are going to talk about and it all starts with a quote by one of Sean’s favorite authors, Richard Rohr.

LINKS
Richard Rohr – Another Name for Everything
Ram Dass – Be Here Now
They’ll Love Me When I’m Dead
The Last Picture Show

CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

CONNECT WITH SEAN
Website: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker

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MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq

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In this episode of Deep Natter, we're talking about effort, specifically whether and how and to what degree effort is connected to the value of the things we make. To help illustrate how effort can affect or influence the end product, we refer to a couple terrific films by Werner Herzog. If you would like to listen to these conversations live or participate with a question or comment, join us on the Clubhouse app Tuesdays at 2pm Eastern.

LINKS
Love languages by Gary Chapman
Heart of Darkness
Fitzcrraldo
Conquest of the Useless: Reflections from the Making of Fitzcarraldo
Burden of Dreams
Aguirre Wrath of God
Bert Kreisher and Casey Neistet
Casey Neistat

CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

CONNECT WITH SEAN
Website: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker

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MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq

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In this debut episode of Deep Natter, Sean and I are talking about long-term projects and curating our own work. Each of us have been circling a personal project for years and as luck would have it, coming out of a global pandemic was just the catalyst we needed to stop thinking and start doing. We also talk about the importance of making the things you want to see in the world, rather than worrying about how they might be received by an audience and Sean shares one of his favorite recent books.

LINKS
A Guide to the Good Life by William B. Irvine
Happy by Derren Brown
Photo Work by Sasha Wolfe
David Bowie on never playing to the gallery

CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com
Twitter: @jefferysaddoris
Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

CONNECT WITH SEAN
Website: http://seantucker.photography
Twitter: @seantuck
Instagram: @seantuck
YouTube: Sean Tucker

BE A PART OF THE SHOW
You can listen to Deep Natter live and be a part of the conversations on Tuesdays at 2pm ET on Clubhouse.

SUBSCRIBE
Subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also get Deep Natter, along with my other shows Process Driven, In Between, and Iterations by subscribing to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything wherever you listen to podcasts.

MUSIC
High Line by Duffmusiq

Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist