I still cannot believe that I got the chance to talk to the guest you’re about to hear. I found Jenn thanks to the magic of Google, possibly over a decade ago, when I was looking to see if anyone was working on or talking about veganism and eating disorder recovery. Back then, Jenn was speaking about her own journey of recovery from an eating disorder and was using her beautiful music to help inspire and support fellow people in recovery. For the first time, I heard an echo of what I had been feeling, that being vegan, in the deepest sense of the word aka coming from a place of ethics and a desire to protect animals, isn’t an automatic link to developing disordered habits with food or an eating disorder. Although it involves inherent restriction, there is much more nuance than what you might take at face value, and although it is the case, and you’ve heard me mention this many times before, that for some people struggling with an ED it is best to push the pause button on going vegan, for many others, respecting their deep desire to not eat animals, can be incredibly important in their recovery journey.

It’s been a long journey since I first found Jenn. Since then she’s helped so many people, vegans and non vegans alike by becoming a mental health counselor. On a personal note, I have to tell you that from the very first time I sat down to write lists of potential guests, Jenn’s name was right there, in a paragraph titled DREAM guests, which in my mind meant guests I thought were such a long shot but a girl can dream. Lo and behold she is here. I still can’t believe it even though I should, because Jenn is the most approachable, kind, compassionate, knowledgeable and generous person.

Jenn Friedman, MA, MHC-LP, is a Mental Health Counselor with a Masters Degree in Counseling from Goldsmiths University of London where she trained in psychodynamic therapy. She also holds a Mental Health Counseling Advanced Graduate Certificate from the University at Buffalo and a certification in Creative Arts and Health from the New School for Social Research. She works with adults of all ages who present with a variety of issues, including relationships, career transitions, eating disorders, substance misuse, anxiety, depression, grief, and loss. She has specialized training working with dementia patients and their families. Because of her specialized interest in eating disorders and veganism, Jenn published her book, Veganism and Eating Disorder Recovery in 2022 (Routledge), which aims to improve the discourse about veganism in eating disorder recovery. In her book, Jenn proposes a vegan-informed treatment model, adapted from the existing trauma-informed approach.

In this conversation we talk about all the nuance involved in the intersection between being vegan and in the process of recovery. It’s a conversation that will be so helpful for people in treatment to feel seen and heard, for new vegans, for anyone who might be feeling that something is slightly off with their relationship with food, but it is also in my opinion, so important if you are a clinician and work with this demographic.

Without further ado, join my conversation with Jenn Friedman by clicking play above, or listening wherever you get your podcasts.

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