Today on the podcast we have a special conversation about the complex nature of education, reading and phonics instruction, and the pitfalls of all-or-nothing thinking.

Jennifer Serravallo is a renowned literacy consultant and the author of New York Times’ bestseller The Reading Strategies Book as well as The Writing Strategies Book; Teaching Reading in Small Groups; Teaching Writing in Small Groups, and Connecting with Students Online, among others.

Jen is joined by Wiley Blevins, an early reading specialist and author with experience teaching elementary school in both the United States and South America. He was Director of Special Projects for Scholastic in New York City, and has written several books on phonics and reading.

Jen and Wiley started their conversation by sharing their observations on the current state of teaching and education.

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