Comedian, writer and actor Jes Tom has worked on HBO’s Our Flag Means Death and voice acted on Adult Swim’s Tuca & Bertie. Their solo show, Less Lonely, was featured in the Netflix comedy special Gender Agenda, hosted by Hannah Gadsby. Jes’ work plays with their movement through queer worlds since coming out at 13. With seven placements in Capricorn, Jes tells host Isa Nakazawa about their struggle to differentiate between how their audience sees them and their own internal sense of self. Jes also talks about their romantic life and how listening to their body is bringing new flexibility and vulnerability into their relationships.

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