Bob interviews Jesse Crosson. At 18 years old Jesse pled guilty to robbery and unlawful wounding, which carried a max sentence of 16 years in prison. The Judge however decided to make an example of Jesse, and sentenced him to twice the max penalty, 32 years. Jesse turned his life around in prison. He worked hard to earn a Bachelors degree, and committed his time to helping educate other prisoners. He even started a podcast called "Pre-Zen: Lessons from Lockup" while incarcerated. This past August, he was granted clemency from Governor Ralph Northam. He's now dedicated his life to prison reform, using his experiences from the inside to guide his quest.

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