In their maiden episode as co-hosts, Jim O'Brien and Maggie Mick interview friend of the show, Steven Palmer, and first-time guest Paul DioGuardi. Two Partners at Forbes Tate. In addition to learning about Paul's impressive career including time with the Democratic Governors Association as well as the Obama Administration and his work on the Affordable Care Act, we dove into a discussion on upcoming primaries and a forecast for the 2024 gubernatorial races, current characteristics of gubernatorial candidates, and the debate on the viability of state trifectas in the coming years and election cycles.

Links to Steven's past TPL appearances:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-political-life/id1401504350?i=1000603590856

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-political-life/id1401504350?i=1000496060064