Joanna Whaley Podcast

This week on the show we hear an interview Joanna did with a conservative pastor. In this much-anticipated episode, Kevin sits down with former evangelical megachurch pastor Joanna Whaley, who is now a transgender woman. In this episode, you hear the story of how Joanna was outed by her church and subsequently fired. Parts one and two of this episode are honest, deep, and challenging. Listen as they respectfully challenge each other's views on all things LGBTQ. Want to see what it's like for two people who completely disagree with each other to debate scripture in a respectful way?

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Today on the show I process something deeply personal on the show. This weekend the church I worked for when I got fired for coming out as trans had a pastor get arrested for having a camera in a bathroom. The misguided anger at LGBTQ people was intense and on the show I process the emotions of dealing with this news of a close friend who did something truly awful. If you are a victim of clergy abuse please reach out and I will do my best to point you to resources you may need. 

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Today on the show we discuss the marriage of Christianity and gun ownership rights. We also discussed in depth about how the employment of "Thoughts and Prayers" is unhelpful after major mass shooting events.

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In this episode we discuss the Kamala Harris and Tim Walz CNN Interview and draw comparisons of how we explore the challenges and slow progress in the intersection of LGBTQ rights and religious freedom. Join us as we discuss the latest developments, share inspiring stories of resilience, and offer practical strategies for staying hopeful and motivated.

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Today on the show we discuss the difference in spiritual tone of the Democratic National Convention versus the Republican National Convention. This week we all saw history with Kamala Harris taking the nomination of her party, but we may have missed the spiritual tone that asks a big question. Are Progressives subscribing to a kinder Christianity? 

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Today on the show we discuss the complex issue of the Israel & Palestine conflict, and how the endless wave of end times prophecy works for the privileged among us and harms LGBTQ people in our world. By reflecting on the complexities of this conflict in the middle east we can see how binaries of religious thought can be harmful to all.

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REFERENCES: 
Rohr, Richard. The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe. Convergent Books, 2019, p20. Dennett, Daniel C. Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon. Viking Penguin, 2006, p337. Powell, Mark. Introducing the New Testament. Baker Academic, 2009, p398. “The Rapture is not coming.” Data Over Dogma, hosted, Apple, Apple Podcasts, Aug 12, 2024. Israel Palestine 101, Bro History, Podbay, episode , May 23, 2021. Collis, Simon. “Diplomacy and War in the Middle East.” CWD Lancaster Podcast, Spotify, Jan 22, 2021. 

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Today on the podcast we have special coverage of the "Christians for Kamala" online gathering. We hear from speaks like Host John Fulelsary, Rev Karla, Senator Cory Booker and more. Joanna give input throughout the event as we hear from influential religious and spiritual voices who support Kamala Harris. 

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Today on the podcast we discuss the potential of Kamala Harris's vice presidential running mate Tim Walz.  we discuss his potential of bridging the gap between LGBTQ+ people and evangelical christians. 

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Rachel Maddow, Rachel Maddow Show Special Coverage of the debut of Tim Walz, New York, NY, MSNBC, Aug 6, 2024. Newshour, BBC News World Service, London, UK, British Broadcasting Corporation, 2024, Aug 6, 2024. Anderson Cooper, Anderson Cooper 360: Harris & Walz Speak at Detroit Rally, Atlanta, GA, CNN, July 30 & August 7, 2024. Pod Save America, Tim Walz Keeps the Good Vibes Going, Crooked Media Inc, 2024, Aug 7, 2024. The Daily Show: Ears Edition, Harris-Walz Campaign Holds First Rally, New York, NY, Comedy Central, 2024, August 8, 2024. Gay Student Says Coach Tim Walz Protected Him from Homophobic Bullies.” LGBTQ Nation, 2024. Valentina Gomez Loses Primary.” The Advocate, 2024. Tim Walz and the Tampon Law in Minnesota.” NPR, 7 Aug. 2024. White Dudes and the Harris-Walz Dynamic.” The Washington Post, 9 Aug. 2024. Eric Foner, Give Me Liberty, New York, NY, WW Norton and Company, 2017, pg, 728. 

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In this week's episode we dive into the complex story of Imane Khelif, an intersex athlete whose journey in the Olympics has sparked a significant conversation about identity and inclusivity. We discuss how Christianity has failed at checking facts and believing in flawed sources. We also discuss the demise of the Heritage Foundation and talk about the positive impacts of defeating Christian Nationalism can have on society. 

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Badash, David. “What Project 2025 Shutting Down 'Policy' Operations Actually Means: Expert.” The New Civil Rights Movement, 31 July 2024. “Heritage Foundation - Bias and Credibility.” Media Bias/Fact Check, 9 July 2024. Ryssdal, Kai, and Molly Ball. “From Reagan to Trump: How the Heritage Foundation Has Influenced Policy.” Marketplace, 3 May 2017. “Project 2025: Unveiling the Far Right's Plan to Demolish Immigration in a Second Trump Term.” Niskanen Center, 2024. Elliott, Philip. “Heritage Foundation Stepping Down from Project 2025.” Politico, 30 July 2024. "Paul Dans." Wikipedia, "About Project 2025." Project 2025, "Paul Dans." The Heritage Foundation. "Ten Conservative Principles." The Heritage Foundation. "Project 2025: A Christian Nationalist Playbook Outlines a Broad Scheme to Overthrow American Democracy and Install a Theocracy." Americans United for Separation of Church and State, 2024. Richards, Gillian. "The Dog Whistle of 'Christian Nationalism'." The Heritage Foundation. Khelif, Imane. “Transphobia in the Olympics: The Fight for Inclusion in 2024.” The Advocate, 2 Aug. 2024. Koubek, Matt. “The Gender Politics of the 2024 Olympics: What’s at Stake for Transgender and Intersex Athletes.” Foreign Policy, 3 Aug. 2024. Khelif, Imane. “Intersex and Defined: What It Means for Imane Khelif and the Fight for Fairness.” Out, 1 Aug. 2024. “Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif’s Fight for Gender Fairness.” CBC News, 2 Aug. 2024. 

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Join us as we unpack the complexities of navigating faith and identity, challenge the ways Christianity is wielded in political agendas, and discuss the details of Project 2025 and its opposition of embracing an inclusive, compassionate approach to spirituality. Whether you’re a person of faith, a member of the LGBTQ community, or simply curious about the conversation, this episode is for you.

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REFERENCES: 

Mandate for Leadership: Project 2025.” Project 2025, Heritage Foundation, 2024, pg 4,62,258,284,582,583-5, 644. Taylor N.T. Brown, and Kerith J. Conron. "Conversion Therapy and LGBT Youth." The Williams Institute, 2018. Human Rights Watch. "License to Harm: Legal Discrimination Against LGBT People in the US." Human Rights Watch, 2018. Southern Poverty Law Center. "Hatewatch: Anti-LGBT." Southern Poverty Law Center, 2020.Human Rights Watch. "License to Harm: Legal Discrimination Against LGBT People in the US." Human Rights Watch, 2018 Currah, Paisley. "The Transgender Rights Imaginary." Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law, vol. 4, no. 4, 2003, pp. 705-720. Mallory, Christy, and Brad Sears. "Evidence of Housing Discrimination Based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity: An Analysis of Complaints Filed with State Enforcement Agencies, 2008-2014." The Williams Institute, 2016. Badgett, M. V. Lee. "The Economic Cost of Stigma and the Exclusion of LGBT People: A Case for Inclusion." The World Bank, 2014.Richards, Hannah. "Elon Musk Criticizes Gender-Affirming Care in Interview with Jordan Peterson." USA Today, 22 July 2024. Deism." Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Stanford University, 21 Jul. 2023, Armstrong, Karen. A History of God: The 4,000-Year Quest of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Ballantine Books, 1993. "Deism." Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy.  Israel, Jonathan I. Radical Enlightenment: Philosophy and the Making of Modernity 1650-1750. Oxford University Press, 2001. Shanks, Andrew. What Is Truth? From the Academy to the Vatican. Routledge, 2001. Buckley, Michael J. At the Origins of Modern Atheism. Yale University Press, 1987.

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