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You got the interview. You wrote the thank you note. You followed up with an email. You called the recruiter. What's next? 

Scott and Andrew talk about the Do's and Don'ts of following up for interviews and networking.

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The power of empathy.

Golden and Platinum Rule

Refining your approach to following up

When do you give up

Thinking outside the box of HR recruiter

Positive and effective ways to followup well 

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Job-seekers radio Andrew, and I'm Scott this production is meant to provide you meaningful support to find great careers faster. Whether you're working or not today on job seekers radio. We're talking about follow up. How much is too much and win. Can we cross that line to where we become an annoying pestering fool, right? Rather than an exceptionally qualified. Awesome candidate exactly follow up as one of my favorite, topics. I've said many times you may have heard it in in prior podcasts. I'm sure you will hear it in the future for me. Follow up is the most important step of any process if you aren't following up. Well, you're you don't know if it truly works other than Donal evidence. And I'm not gonna get into a lot of debate over this. I've just find that if you follow up in a thoughtful manner that the chances of success, whatever it is. You're trying to do. To increase if you're thinking that it's too much. It probably is. Yeah. Put yourself in their shoes. How often would you wanna be followed up with and how much and what method and what does that look like kind of us a little bit of empathy and put yourself in their position. Sure. And understand the context of what your follow it might be related to. So I've been unemployed several times been laid off just from the nature of the work that I've done and the result is I end up looking for work afterwards. I've done this many times. I've also been a hiring manager. I tend to see people behaving toward me when I was looking for an employee similarly to how I was behaving as well. And so as I look at the things that work for me, the things that don't work for me from these candidates. It's sort of bringing in full circle. And I. Get a different understanding of how I might have been coming across. If I was following up too often or not often enough what I was saying as I was following up. All of these things came into better, focus, so short of becoming a hiring manager all of a sudden, you will want to put your own activities through that filter to see how it works on the other side. And you'll never know exactly what the other person might be thinking. And that's okay. Think of all the times where follow up could make a difference in your career. That's how we're approaching this could relate to an interview it could just be you try to build relationships inside your organization, it could be you wanting to do career change, whatever the context is networking interviewing what have you? This podcast episode is really dedicated to help you get better at that activity in terms of how you approach people and the approach really does make. Difference. If your intent is to build strategic relationships that you want to incubate over time, you're always going to be seeking people that fit that that mold rather than maybe tactical series of things you do just to get a job or an offer or. Yes. Afind out status on your application. Whatever it might be your goal is different. When you want to establish these relationships, it's the relationship that becomes the goal that what a successful relationship looks like in this context is going to take time to build all of that changes the way you're defining the road to success. So the approach does shift really quite quite dramatically with that said, you're also going to want to think about what strategically could benefit both sides of that networking conversation over time as I'm tal...

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how long is it  going to take, really? This is a very common question. Both Scott and Andrew have heard this question frequently. The variety of asking can influence the way in which it is answered.

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What qualities determine how long it will take to find a job?

The Level of The Role you Are Seeking. The higher the role, the longer it will take.

Activities Use To Find Work: Effective job search as measured by conversions to interviews.

Supply and Demand In Your Marketplace. Economics 101 - high demand and low supply generates faster placement.

Asking Better Questions of Yourself. Crafting a better ask, will generate a better answer. 

Resources (including affiliate links)

4-Part Series on the Anatomy of a Networking ConversationJSR 015: The Set-Up

JSR 016: The Icebreaker JSR 017: The Question and AnswerJSR 018: The Ask 

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Aw. Welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew, and I'm Scott this is a production meant to provide. You the listener meaningful support to find great careers faster. Whether you're working or not today on job seekers radio were answering. The lifelong question how long is it going to take to get a job? Well, it depends depends. Are you talking about the undergarments that you use older? But suppose, if that something you need to deal with and you know, maybe you should consider that. No, we're talking about this, maybe. Okay. Off to a great start. We are asked to this question. Just about every time we get together in a networking scenario. We hear it all the time. It is going to be a question that we've asked ourselves that others will ask us that we hear people asking each other. This question is never going away. And it, unfortunately, there's no good answer that covers everybody. It may be just have to ask a better question. We'll talk about that later on in this episode. The feeling I get is it really depends on how you ask it because it may be like, oh, how long is this going to take or you could be at the front end of the search. And you're wondering how long is this going to take a really depends on your mindset? And we talk about that in a lot of the episodes out here is where is your mindset? I really think that the the best approach to answering this question. First of all you have to understand that the answer that. You're going to find is going to be different from any other answer than anybody else finds because we're all in a unique situation as a result. We start looking for the answers internally in a future podcast. We're going to talk about looking for a success from external sources, and and the the liabilities involved in that. But I wanna touch on that for a moment. Because if I'm always looking for someone else to answer the question, I'm always going to find that it's a little bit off. Because no one else is going to be an exactly the same situation for me. And what works for them isn't always going to work for me. But there are ways for us to take what has worked for others. Try it on for size and see how that works for us. What it brings? Because really the way to answer that question for my experience has been what am I doing in my job search, and what of that is actually working what you really asking is what qualities or what components would. Determine how long is it gonna take to get a job? Exactly. And there's a lot. And there's a lot of them the first one I would look at is the level in terms of seniority in the organization, if you're looking director or executive level. The presumption is of course, depending on the other components will talk about here is that it's going to take longer. The companies are more deliberate about this hiring decisions. There might be more stakeholders involved, and it just gonna take longer. It may also be an organization that has a lot of back story that they want to undo they want to shift the focus or shift th...

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You work so hard to get the interview, why botch it? Take some time to learn the pitfalls to avoid so you dominate the interview with offers. Join Scott and Andrew as we share the top mistakes.

9 Mistakes To Avoid When Interviewing

Not Doing Any Research on the Company and Position

Not Preparing for the Common Interview Questions

Assuming you are "Good Enough"

Not Having Any Questions to Ask the Hiring Team

Not Knowing Anyone Inside

Forgetting To Follow-Up

Lack of Self-Awareness related to Skills-Employer Match

Relying Too Heavily on Nervousness

Not Checking your Appearance

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013 Never Heard Anything After The Interview010 Interviewing with Confidence003 Branding, Interviewing and Online Applications [Hot Mic] 

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Aw. Welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew, and I'm Scott this production is meant to provide you meaningful support defiant. Great careers faster. Whether you're working or not today seekers radio we cover the nine mistakes to avoid when you're interviewing now, this is a favorite topic for us. We talk to people all the time about interviewing skills. There are classes probably every economic of every employment development office in the country. There are many resources to end yet. We find that. It is probably a hidden talent market for those who truly interview. Well, and I'm not talking about those who quote interview. Well, and then turn out to be something else. Once they get on the job were just talking about having a good interviewing conversation. So the first mistake to avoid actually is not doing any research on the company or the people you. You're about to meet, right? I can't tell you. How many people have come in? When I've been interviewing to hire. They come in thinking that their skills will speak for themselves. And they haven't done the research, I pick up on it right away. And most people do I'm not I'm not special here. Wait a minute. It's got to read my resume yet. Probably did which is why you're here today. But if you haven't shown enough interest in my company to actually know what to talk about it's gonna show right away. And that can be a very quick disqualifier. And it's a small investment of your time to overlook this is just nonsensical. Right. Just doesn't make any sense. We have the internet his days and most companies have an internet presence. Now. Maybe they're not really good. If you're with a small company, maybe they haven't done something that that is really friendly on your phone, but they still probably have a website. You can find out something about them. Just doing. Google search class horror glass to work series. I be so surprised if there wasn't a whole bunch of stuff on glass door that you can learn about that company right now, it is a simple mistake that simply should not happen. And in full disclosure, I've done that. And I realized once I walk in. I don't have enough information. And I can't blame them when they don't call me back because I didn't show enough caring to do that research. There's no excuse. I mean, whatever the motivation is it could be that. You don't want the position, but they invited you for an interview anyway. Yeah. Still just because now my professional credibility is on the line. Of course, we'll get to excuses in a moment. But the next mistake to avoid is not prepared for the standard questions that you know, everybody's going to ask right? I would say nine interviews out of ten have five or six very basic questions things like tell me about yourself. What should we know about you that really doesn't have a? Well, it has many meanings or purposes as it does people who ask they want the conversation to start. They want to know a little bit about you. And they want to know why they should listen to you beyond the your answer be prepared with something.

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Networking can present some new and unique situations, especially if you are looking for work. Andrew and Scott discuss the biggest mistakes to avoid when networking for jobs.

7 Mistakes To Avoid

Talking About Yourself Non-Stop

Not Asking Questions

Not Talking About Yourself At All

Not Asking For Referrals

Introducing Your Resume

Not Following Up

Demanding Employment

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 4-Part Series on the Anatomy of a Networking ConversationJSR 015: The Set-Up

JSR 016: The Icebreaker JSR 017: The Question and AnswerJSR 018: The Ask 

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Jobseeker's radio. I'm Andrew, and I'm Scott this production is meant to provide you meaningful support to find great careers faster. Whether you're working or not today job seekers radio we talk about mistakes to avoid win networking, right? The first thing that I tell people is something I have done. In fact, I I want to preface this that all of these mistakes. We're going to talk about today I've done and I have to both of us have. So I'm speaking from experience what not to do because it's usually embarrassing once I've realized that this what I've done and the first thing that came to mind when the question came up was talking about myself nonstop networking should be a two way street. So if I'm doing the talking that becomes a problem, and they talk you'll hear people talk about good communication is an eighty twenty. You do eighty percent listening and twenty percent talking. And then if you feel like it's fifty. Fifty probably been talking too much. I'm not gonna argue with that. I don't think the percentage is really important. But I find that my own style is one where I'm going to make connections that that's where I go. I and so as I'm talking to someone and they say something resonates with me. I don't take the time to really listen deeply to what they're saying. And ask them questions to dive in. What I what I instinctively do is connect by saying, oh, I did the same thing or I had a similar experience or you know, I have this commonality, and it's not because I'm trying to talk. It's that I'm trying to connect. But that doesn't always come across that way. Well in our insecurities come out to right. Oh, never do. Well, so here it is. You know, we're talking about ourselves because we're nervous were insecure. We don't know what we should be saying if we haven't done a lot of networking is really hard to not fill the air with something. Right something. What was most ourselves? So. Sometimes it just feels like you're talking non stop and the other person just kind of tuning out, maybe even looking at their phone looking over their shoulder. So just recognize that, you know, when you're talking too much when somebody just kinda glazes over and stops paying attention, and they're not engaged in any kind of dialogue. Right. So what do you do when you find yourself in that situation? Ask questions. Yep. Yep. So I mean, that's the second thing that we need to talk about his, hey, not asking questions is one of the biggest mistakes you can avoid when doing networking. Yes. And make sure that the questions that you ask actually make sense generally the best way to do that. As to ask a question based on what the other person just said, that's the definition of deep listening. You'll hear people talk about it as active listening, you want to allow at least for the time being the other person to guide the conversation, and you can do that by asking questions about. Oh, well, tell me more about that. Or how did that work out for you? Or, you know. What did you learn from that? And these are ways for that to keep them talking. But that you're truly interested because you're always listening to understand not just to reply course, that also leads to another mistake. And that is not talking about yourself at all. And that is huge for me.

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? This is a production man to provide meaningful support to find great careers faster. Whether you're working or not today on job seekers radio were actually answering a plethora of questions from read it at least four or five whatever we have time for. That's right. And so we often find that there's a lot of great content and support unread it as a platform so that you can get farther along in your career, right? There are more than five questions on read it. But we've chosen a few to address today there will be some others in the future. But this is a good place to start the first one that we're going to address here is from Nico ghost. Who wrote isn't a bad idea to quit a job over an abusive boss, and the back story is I've been working at this job for over five months now, and it was fun. But lately, my boss has been meaner and meaner to me like she'll tell me, I'm worthless one minute. And then tell me I'm doing a great job the next and co workers have been telling me that. She talks about me behind my back saying I do nothing while I'm in the middle of doing something it's gotten so bad that other co workers are trying to protect me as best. They can I really don't want to quit as loved the job itself. But my boss makes me want to cry every day, and it's hard to find jobs in my area. Anyway. So should I stick it out? Or would it be better to move on? And find a new job. Yes. Always be looking for a new job. That's great advice. Those of us who have been through sales for any length of time in our careers know that a good salesman never stops. Looking now with that said the abuse needs to stop. And if you have not yet had a conversation about how you feel about these interactions that would be the first step and a lot of people are intimidated, or they feel like they can't have that conversation because they don't know how to give that kind of feedback without it seeming like an accusation. We'll name might be afraid to get fired. Exactly you go any kind of retaliation. Yeah. I mean, I don't wanna be looking over my shoulder either. Right because in environment where you want to build trust with your co workers. You don't want the boss hamstring India? You'll also on your coworkers to do all the work for you. Because that is going to do as packed your confidence. I always recommend people. Ask permission. Meaning whenever you have an observation you're making about a superior or somebody that you don't feel comfortable having a conversation with. Hey, scott. You know, would it be okay. If I share something with you. I think might be helpful for both of us to make our career or work load here better. Yeah. I think that's a great idea. Because now you're actively engaging them before you talk about what's difficult by by doing. So you're starting the conversation with a yes, if they say, no, I don't have time then bring it up later. But the idea is you do want to engage them with them making the first. Choice to say yes at that point. I usually go with the SBA model for giving feedback and t...

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Being in a position of desperation can be difficult. Having ways to cope with and manage it effectively is the topic of this episode.

Join Scott and Andrew as they discuss real world tactics to deal with desperation.

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Where desperation comes from

Benefits of a Gap Job

Taking Stock of Your Fears

Where are you really and how bad is it?

Ideas around making progress when there might be little hope

Positioning your skills and strengths enthusiastically

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4-Part Series on the Anatomy of a Networking ConversationJSR 015: The Set-Up

JSR 016: The Icebreaker JSR 017: The Question and AnswerJSR 018: The Ask 

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Welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew, and I'm Scott this production is meant to provide you meaningful support to find great careers faster. Whether you're working or not today on job seekers radio were talking about how to network when you're desperate. I have quite a bit of experience this having been laid off. We've oh six times. Yeah. You got five or six I got four. Yeah. It's been interesting. How that comes up and admittedly some periods of unemployment have been quite short. But others have lasted a lot longer than I was comfortable doing and desperation the time that I was unemployed for a period of years. Yeah. I was desperate that the topic is important to me because I know others go through this. It is a tough time being unemployed is probably one of the hardest things, especially if you're employed. For a long period. It's going to be one of the hardest things you will ever encounter. I would put it up there with divorce because I can talk about that too about bankruptcy. There are a whole bunch of life experiences that are really really negative and being unemployed for a long period of time is going to rank pretty high on the list. I can tell you. I hate it. I absolutely all do hated it. And I think the emotions that go through and the the pariah and the the Monica of unemployed, and oh, you're out of work. You know, all those conversations are still fresh in my mind. Yes, there's a lot of judgment vault and most of the time and something will touch on by the end of this conversation is that most of that judgment is internal. It's how we feel about ourselves. Whether it's at this age, I should be unemployed. I should be preparing for retirement, whatever that is the. The that judgment is often worst internally, and it's not actually coming from other people. If you're in a position where you really really I mean really need a job we suggest go get a job it jump. And and that sounds rather flippant. But the idea is there are people out there hiring right now, I have driven by a number of places the metropolitan transit authority here in Portland called Tri met. They most of their buses have tremendous hiring. I've seen a postings out front of Home Depot recently that they are hiring. There are jobs out there, and it's not necessarily going to be a career. It's not necessarily going to be something you're going to be passionate about and loving it, and they treat you exactly the way you've always wanted to be it may not be like that. But there are advantages. I'd say steppingstone. Yes, it really is just a stepping stone to something better. And they know that this is going to be stepping stone. That's why they pay what they pay. And that's why they're jobs are open is because their high turnover all those things are true. Right. But for you the benefit is that my mind now is released from that fear that anxiety that worry how going to earn a living where my mom, where's my next paycheck gonna come from? And it may be a situation where the job you have to take doesn't pay enough. And we understand that too. And you may need to take a second job, and none of that necessarily feels good. But I'm going to suggest that unemployment takes a bigge...

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Advanced planning after College requires a proactive approach. Thinking about your future is not wasted time for anyone.

Scott and Andrew discuss some ideas and techniques you can utilize now to make a difference in your career future.

Don't miss these Topics:

Whenever your education ends, prepare for it now.

Employment Types during and after college to consider.

Building an online presence.

Activities that will lead in your desired career path

Ways to identify target companies and industries 

What should I do with LinkedIn?

How should I approach the people I want to network with? 

Resources (including affiliate links)

4-Part Series on the Anatomy of a Networking ConversationJSR 015: The Set-Up

JSR 016: The IcebreakerJSR 017: The Question and Answer

JSR 018: The Ask 

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Welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew, and I'm Scott this production is meant to provide you meaningful support to find great careers faster. Whether you're working or not today seekers radio were talking about how to prepare for college graduation after college that is or any graduation experience, I suppose, and what do I do? Now, we are prior episode. We talked about the choices that we might make and this sort of relates to that were sort of addressing those who think they have a career path. They know basically what they want to do. But they don't know how to take the first steps or maybe there's just too many steps to choose from. But how do I make these kinds of decisions? And there are probably as many different ideas on how to address this. As there are people. You can talk to which is kind of the point. Well, we recognize that the people listening to this may be in school. They have obligations to fulfil their they have term papers and final prepare for and all those things the responsibilities. Of school having time or margin to actually participate in these activists is really important. So that you're not doing it last minute, right? Really? I think this process is to be a little more proactive. Hopefully, you're not waiting until you know, spring semester of your senior term right before graduation and crossing your fingers because that's really not a strategy. No, it isn't. It's not even a plan. But it's what a lot of do. We think we know what we're going to do. And we just wait till the moment to strike, and we jump and we realize we're not landing where we thought we would. So there are a whole lot of things that we can do to prepare for that graduation. Whether that graduation is finishing a training program and jumping into a career, it could be an that could be within a company, it could be the actual university degree, whatever that looks like the idea is getting out into the world before you graduate and finding out the the. Specifics about this one of the first things that people talk about his internships. There are a number of internships out there. Some are paid many are not. And that's something you're going to want to consider if you're in a situation where you need an income and unpaid internship may be an option if you plan it, well, it's going to a little pressure. It's all good just be prepared for that, many states actually have written laws that may prevent or preclude people from hiring, unpaid interns. So in in a lot of states. It's going to vary on where you're at. But you may be able to get a paid internship, most of the time it didn't used to be that way. That's great. But the other thing they consider as full-time employment is that you may be in school now, and you may be able to get full-time employment at your intended target company. There's also ideas that you may be able to get on campus employment. If you haven't explored that already the idea that you get to work in your industry, at least on the academic side of your industry before you get. Out into the real world.

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Networking is the #1 way to find great new career opportunities quickly. Success in networking can be traced to your ability to communicate.

Using the Branding Statement to position yourself. Listen now to hear tips and techniques.

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Ideas around getting out in front of your post-graduation plans

Heightening your awareness of what makes you happy

Career experimentation and leaning into collecting experiences

Why making mistakes shouldn't get you down or stop you

Move past the opinion of ONE person while looking for exceptions to the rule

How to relate with or combine hobby, money and work

Choosing between doing something and doing nothing

Listening to your gut (in a good way)

Change perspective change your world

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Hey world. It's Andrew Scott had a great conversation today about how to find out what you wanna be. When you grow. Welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew, and I'm Scott this is a production meant to provide meaningful support to you to find great careers faster. And that's whether you're working or not today on job seekers radio. We're really trying to answer. What am I going to do when I grow up? That's right. Where we're starting with this is the idea that what if the things that I enjoy doing don't have any relevance or obvious applicability to the job that I man or maybe I just don't know what I wanna do. When I grow up. What do I want to do as a career? Maybe I'm in a job that really isn't lending itself to a career. But I don't know how to do something different. We're starting with the premise that you have a choice that everything in life to a certain extent is choice and your career is no different. Even if you might feel like you're trapped or stuck, especially if you're stuck right, especially if you're stuck. I've I've said to people over time, I don't have to do anything, but die. I don't have to pay taxes losing my home and everything else is choice. I could make it. It's not a good choice. But we always have choices to make. We may not have a wide variety of choices. And that's really what we want to address here. Well, where do you start? You know, this this whole process starts with permission. And we talk about this ad nauseam throughout our podcast is that we have to allow ourselves the opportunity to give ourselves permission that it's okay, right? We can actually look at this idea of passion or career choice or any of these decisions. We're gonna make for ourselves professionally that it's okay to do these things. What started this conversation for us was a blurb that I read recently about people coming out of college and not really wanting a knowing what to do in terms of their career. They were hoping to find their passion. Because so often. We hear the phrase find your passion because that's going to make work fun. And it's not gonna feel like work, but that works for only some of us some of us have an idea of what that looks like our feels like while others have gone through college. They've gone through a general education program, and they never found that passion. And so they end up getting a general decree not knowing what to do. So that the first thing that I thought of was first of all when you're young and you're starting out, and you've got a support network that whether that's money that you acquire during college for those few who actually had college jobs that paid well, whatever that looks like randomly pick things that you feel good about that you enjoy doing. It doesn't have to look like a career right now.

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Attending a networking support group isn't always convenient or meeting your needs. Scott and Andrew discuss the finer points on creating your own group.

Listen to the podcast that makes a different in your career acceleration by establishing your own job club.

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Overcoming thoughts of inadequacy

Finding the right location

Time investments and scheduling

Group member identification and personality

Structure, format, agenda, and expectations

Being an effective meeting moderator

Recruiting leadership and assigning meeting tasks to others

Foster an environment that is similar to your personality 

Promotion and advertising made easy

Qualities of successful groups

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Hey world. It's Andrew in this episode of job seekers radio. We give you some pointers. Some tips on how to start manage and promote your own job seekers support group. Welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew, and I'm Scott, this is a podcast dedicated to providing you meaningful support to find great careers faster. Whether you're working or not we are coming to you from the city of Portland that is a city of roses today on job seekers radio were talking about how to create your own job seekers group. Right. We know that there are going to be some of our audience members who don't have access to a job group or they don't have. They don't know of one they've done their search. They've talked to different people. And there just isn't one in your area. We want to encourage people to start their own. They shouldn't feel as if there is no one out there that can help them there is because there's always going to be others who are also looking for work. It's simply getting in touch with them, creating your own actually gives you a sense of purpose and. A bit of control when you have choices and how to set it up. How often to have it where we're gonna talk about an a minute. This gives you that sense of freedom. Freedom choice implies freedom. John Whitmore who wrote coaching for performance talks about this. As you provide yourself or others choices in what they can do. It gives them a sense of empowerment, and that means they are free to make the choice or not. So in doing this. You're actually creating your own access to the help you need by reaching out to people who are in a similar situation. I think of a lot of the groups that we've participated in over the years and a lot of those really they were organic in their creation and somebody was out of work or looking for work, and they met somebody else who was out of work and looking for work and said, hey, let's get together and make it might have been something very simple as just two people. Meeting for coffee once a week, right? We've talked in the past about the beer's network here in Portland. It was a small group of executives who were all found themselves on employed at the same time who were getting together for a beer once a week or once every other week, just to socialize. And they thought why not make this into a group for those like us? So that's how that group started. It really is that easy. Don't over think. It don't think it's gotta be the some perfect group where everything's gotta be an order. We are going to give you some guidelines some things here from our experience that it actually helped us build a group that is successful. We wanted to start with logistics. You know, how do you set it up? And where do you have it in all rat? What are your thoughts on that? Well, I think it's really important to do a works for you. If there isn't a group out there that that is available or accessible, then as you create one do what works for you select the days times locations that worked for your schedule. If you have a young family, for example, and you can't be too far from home.

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Networking is the #1 way to find great new career opportunities. Getting your feet wet can be easy with a job seekers networking group. They go by many names, but with a common goal of connecting and facilitating.

Andrew and Scott share experiences with you on how and where to find networking groups for career seeking professionals..

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Welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew, and I'm Scott, this is a podcast dedicated to providing meaningful support to find great careers faster. Whether you're working or not we are coming to you from the city of Portland that is the city of Rosas today job seekers radio were talking about finding networking groups for job seekers. Specifically, those groups where job seekers congregate to help each other support each other in finding opportunities and really also providing maybe a little moral support right people think of support group says being something designed only for mental health you can make the claim that this helps the mental health of those who are looking for work, especially when you are looking for work for a long period of time right now, we're in what is considered a tight job market. But that doesn't mean that everybody gets a job right away, especially the higher the position the longer you've been in a career. It may not be quite as quick for you. We want to encourage everyone to look for job seekers groups that will support one another both with networking as well as ideas on how to be resilient now. It's interesting when you're in a job for a long time. You haven't had a need to network and finding these groups is kind of a low stakes way for you to get started in the idea of networking would be, hey, I haven't done this before can I practice with somebody where the stakes are low. These groups are very attractive to me primarily because I like to contribute to them. And I know you do to Scott by me, we do that currently through a group called the breakfast club. And I found that the more that I do it. The more situations. I see the more helpful. I can be right to to people. Right. We pick up the the the nuances that happened in between everyone tells and I heard this quote a while ago every. Nobody tells the same story just different versions of it. And so as we see the different versions were able to synthesize some new ideas and often we are brainstorming in these conversations. But that's the point of a support group year. Not it's not a good idea to walk into one thinking, I have all the answers. Or by the same token. I have none of the answers. We often have the answer somewhere in our heads. We just need open up the right doors or create the right connections in our minds to actually come across. Oh, I haven't tried that. Or I haven't done that in a long time. You you're really restarting the process as you say if you've been in your job for a long time in you haven't been networking one of the things that I learned during one period of unemployment that lasted three years for me that was really tough at the same time. I was told that I had all the answers within me. And so in working through those I actually. I found the way to be resilient while I was unemployed, and that's what these groups are for. And it made you a better person on the other side, really and you came out resilient not only in that situation...