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When the job market is tight, multiple offers for employment is fairly common. How do you work the logistics when you already accepted one and started work?

Scott and Andrew discuss the process for navigating the delicate discussion in this Episode of Job Seekers Radio..

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Steps to consider during your decision process.

Multiple offer handling ideas.

Components to consider when making your decision.

Personal inventory of values.

Communication and honesty in conversations.

Positioning and documenting on LinkedIn and resume.

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What Color is Your Parachute010 Interviewing with Confidence  

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 View TranscriptLooking to jobseekers radio I'm Andrew this is the podcast dedicated to providing meaningful support whether you're working or not we're coming to you live well not really like recorded in a beautiful which is a suburb of the city of rose city Portland job seekers radio were talking about the crazy time job market it is it kosher to leave a job after you just got one I will give you a qualified yes to keep in mind it if you have taken a job and you're fairly young in if you haven't been there very long can you get another offer it's OK to consider taking it most companies that I have had experience with our So while it may not be what would choose while it may not be what they would have liked understand the value of you taking a better position for taking advantage of a better opportunity whenever there's people involved he might go out the window organization could be mature but there may be a person in it so let's just be clear we need to eat dinner by another better offer in front of you or are you the one is being mature or immature right is it a company being mature or immature as it being your boss you hit the nail on the head it's a understanding whether or not this is the right opportunity if you do get the other offer is your opportunity to take a look at both jobs the one you just started everything we did the job is Direct course to a higher position and it may be that it's a smaller company with room to grow or larger company with greater security the details of that second opportunity I would say move slowly be very careful because there's no way to know if in fact it is a better job you may not be able to go back to it I take the new job is going to be appear on the surface to be but it could be that you just had a really persuasive persuasive hiring manager that as we say in the in the interview Go to game you have your players got Verizon because they want to look at it for you to work in the arena we talk about those who eat what are the reasons why it's very important that as you take that first job trying to find out what happens behind yes the second job is the one you really wanted in the first place and it's perfect for you if you don't take a second job are you gonna be happy and the first not having gone for it It's really important that you take into consideration all the things on both sides of the fence bit interesting firing really want to accomplish in your career it could be the two offers come up side-by-side and I have never seen that before there's always been there in someway shape or form a connection to hire leadership principles that I feel like go that way is the right way to go it's going to depend on the job if you are working is the kind of work are you don't have much interaction with with your coworkers and that the networking with in the company really doesn't happen that much there's not that much interaction that it may be easier to stick with it the hardest part is win They really are is real and it's going to set you up for more you just want the money and the ability OK just be honest about it if you're not the one that's motivated by one of the many can bring it you are motivated by what people do in terms of treatment well if there's a part...

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It's not uncommon in your career that you consider quitting your job. Scott and Andrew discuss ideas on how you can do so with consideration. 

Don't miss these Topics:

Pros and Cons or Make A Diagnosis

Evaluating your motivation

Identifying your support mechanisms

Making decisions and weighing the possible outcomes

Planning your escape to something better

Managing your current situation

Maintaining your reputation through a transition

Tactics to develop understanding of your situation

Coping with feelings and emotions you are experiencing 

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 View TranscriptToday we help you decide when is it time to quit your job that is it the question. that comes out to everyone at some point in their career at multiple points. certainly do the response changes based on creating this podcast were in a really tight labor market where people can leave have an extra cake. really a diagnosis that I think we are people talking about the problem with doing a balancing act on this. Is that what is on one side versus another side. the priorities are Those things is changing and it's a moving target and got a preacher pros and cons. generally recommend is for people to diagnose the issue so if there's a diagnosis there are symptoms. and we're gonna talk about that in just a minute you have to decide when you get to this point to do some self reflection. I think we talked about that a lot in our podcast regardless of what comes in it's always good to take a step back OK and ask yourself the question. what are you gonna quit your job. when you can't write what does that look like. people don't feel like they can't they don't have permission or loyalty or whatever. real or not imagine, either way I talk to the motivation and Family is but it's not all on you. have that conversation to determine when you really can't because you may have support but you don't have them on the other side those who don't have a family to support think I'll like it I could leave anytime it's really important to try and figure that out it's funny you say it that way because as you were talking all I could think of it as convenient excuses there's always a convenient excuse that allows me to rationalize the decision one way or another and so we need to be honest with ourselves that were rationalizing it might be or it could potential he be different than we think that's a really good point and the fact of rational at the idea that Rasche was Because I'm going to make the choice and I just wanna feel better about it you know what you're doing if you rationalize it and then I'm going to wait to make that decision because I know I'm just rationalizing when I think I want to know what to do with it either way you are making responsible choices know what you're doing understand that this is going to be part of the equation and it's OK will the intention of this podcast episode is really to snap people out of what might be a pseudo-reality that you might be thinking oh everything's great it's Grant or I can't leave the colors or fill in the blank with whatever thing you think is preventing you from doing something we talked about briefly before we came on here is actually going through all of these to make your situation ideal for you and the company but you just feel like I'm at the end of my rope and I think it's really important It's not just people that they care about your safety your you're fine if you have truly tried everything you can to make the situation better and it's just not going to get better I think that's a really good indicator that it's time to start looking it really depends on the organization is it the organization really is in a position to be at in employer of choice is to differ could be two different things when they could say yes I know I'm in a poor choice and I'm gonna use it to my advantage Laura Colby station for your benefit if you don't want to sta...

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Many times in your life you might have taken jobs for different reasons. Occasionally, you will take a job that is just there for the money when you just have to have source of income. 

Scott and Andrew discuss the Art of Underemployment with a focus on Survival Jobs.

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What is a survival job.

What kind of stepping stone is this - and be honest.

How much of the truth you might share with employers

How to find and choose the right survival job

Identifying remote work alternatives

Value of networking to find survival jobs

The role of motivation in your decisions to take work

How to look at the idea of survival job

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FlexJobs

Indeed

CareerBuilder

Monster

Craigslist

NextDoor

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 View TranscriptWe’re talking about how to leverage and under employed situation to your advantage we always start these kinds of conversations talking about motivation what is motivating you there are some easy ones I've been unemployed for a period of time and I really don't have any savings left I need to bring some money and clearly you got to get a job and you don't feel like you're in your mind so having that income coming in situation or not I think is worth at least considering if you might be running Experience went long after my unemployment benefits ran out and I was living with family had been looking for that kind of work that I absolutely love doing it and I couldn't find anything and finally got to take the next job became the next job I also think that I need a different kind of knowing that I had but if you did give me some clarity as I was moving forward I had to find something in fortunately this was an application I put in before that conversation happened but I think it impacted the way I interviewed for that job and you made a positive difference taking all kinds of different jobs I've been in situations where I needed and I took whatever came on Do you want to at least get in the ballpark having a clear Destiination to say OK yeah I know the Destiination is over there but this shirt and so even though that was identified as a survivor job for me I did not get all the prior thinking of survival but it turns out to be something exactly many times these can open doors of things you would never considered otherwise and I've known people who actually started a career through a similar situation where they just took a job to take the job and they liked it so well he grew into it into a career a lot of times job is really just I got to survive the holidays right got to survive this thing that's coming up I remember when I was a kid my mom took a job back in the days when people could live on one income And so does your survival jobs in the sense that you're surviving and getting what you want not just kinds of things we come back to the question of motivation it it's important I think to set it up knowing what is motivating you to do this if it's something that you really don't need that I would be great but then when the stakes are high need to be a little more careful about talking a lot about the podcast about having choices so let's not overlook the fact that sometimes people don't have a choice they have to get something right but if you do have a choice then you can pick something up even though you've identified so you could say all right I need It's a choice that you're making going in the right direction especially in those times where you don't feel you have a choice you have to get something the more decisions you can make in the directions you're going or the companies that you're applying to more it feels like a positive so for example when I was unemployed for long. One of the boys to get into a nursery and a part-time job at a local nursery because I really enjoy as in the plants I would've been happy to get involved in the school for a while I thought it was gonna be another st...

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You the listener takes over the podcast. This is our 2nd episode where we take and answer your specific questions. 

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I'm a college senior, how can I find my passion and where do I begin?

How do you handle privacy for job search online?

Is it cool to apply to a job that I don't want just to get the interview practice?

I have a boss that made promises for advancement but won't pull the trigger, what should I do?

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What Color is Your Parachute 

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Today or jobseekers radio we answer your questions. We really enjoyed getting questions from you we feel like were engaging with you in ways that we can. Just buy broadcasting as you are listening to our podcast and you are going to the job seekers radio.com to find out more or to leave feedback. We want you to ask more questions because this is probably the favorite activity that we have and it gives you an opportunity to get to be personal. Or selfish selfish selfish or what is selfish if you want your questionnaire. Have a question it's likely somebody else so you're helping someone else so it's not totally selfish there's a little bit of altruism. That brings us to our first question for my college senior how can I find my passion and where do I begin. There are on whole bunch of responses that you will get from that question many of them are true. But they feel because you hear them so often they'll be a little cliché, where I start without us what do you enjoy doing what dreams you energy, that you enjoy or how we want to describe what did the things that get you fired up. I guess where I would start that conversation with someone is to get them to understand that you probably have more than one passion don't limit yourself to just one. Open your mind to anything that brings your enjoyment because that's only the first step of a longer conversation or a longer journey in finding what you enjoy doing. that will earn you a living so sometimes that's not Just one off. I hear this question what's my passion I would encourage you to actually look up the textbook definition of what passionate want to change that word usage or use a different word to describe it. I'm hearing most of the time is what it might go down or what would I be good at doing. I would suggest at a college senior should probably go through some assessments will that be a Myers-Briggs or some of the other assessment like StrengthsFinder or StandOut. Excellent point and not many of these fuck about the break talk about style preferences but also each one of those is going to be measuring something a little bit different.  And so if you take several of them I wouldn't go with too many of the free online assessments because they generally don't go deep enough. But you may not have a budget to actually pay someone to take you through the professional assessment so that certainly understand. For aptitude test or did the testing that they do to try and help place you were in vocational training that sort of thing can be really helpful and they are state subsidized so you don't have to pay for them to stay covers the cost in terms of other resources that I would suggest at a college senior lean into that would be the crew center at university the alumni network that you have access to to help you understand what other people who maybe have your same interest actually did with their degree so that you have a bridge between College Inn and workforce the other thing I would recommend and I really got a lot of value out of this was reading what color is your parachute and this is an a lifelong book in and sad to hear of the death of the author died a couple years ago but they're continuing on Frankie build a legacy through that book that helped millions of people again that's a stylus preference based concept that he developed and it's really quite helpful I remember when I read ...

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Have you ever heard or said: I just can't seem to find anyone to meet? Or, I don't really know anyone in my professional area? Or I just don't know anyone?

Today Andrew and Scott uncover some ideas about how to network when you just don't know anyone at all.

Don't miss these Topics:

Change Begins at the End of the Comfort Zone

Choices and Decisions to Make

Change Management: Why, Value, Build Desire

Title Targets

Request for Help: Trusted People in your Circle

Value of Scripting and Templates

Dealing with the Nerves

Psyche-UP versus Psyche-OUT

Maintaining Staying Power

Challenging your Assumptions and Presumptions

Gamification versus Gaming

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JSR 004: Shorten your Job Search with a Wingman4-Part Series on the Anatomy of a Networking ConversationJSR 015: The Set-Up

JSR 016: The IcebreakerJSR 017: The Question and Answer

JSR 018: The Ask  

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 View TranscriptSo often we start out especially if we are looking for a job unexpectedly we wonder who could I possibly turn to who can I have my friends or family or involved in my industry or the kind of work that I do how can I possibly move forward and the hardest thing to realize is how many people you actually already know who can help you gotta want to networking process if you're out of work and you're like whatever the reason is you think you should be networking you have to want to do it and that's the biggest challenge most people have because it come to me and say hey I don't know anybody not be possible You never went to school with anybody he never went to the doctor Reger visited a dentist you have never been and while that may challenge some people and really it's not comfortable it's still a valuable question to ask because change begins at the end of your comfort zone I know we heard that "a lot but you have to be willing to get out of your comfort zone so when we talked about the idea that you have to be willing to network you have to want to network there are a lot of people who say oh no I'm an introvert or I don't socialize easily or I deal with anxiety and all of that maybe true all of that is valid but you can still want to except the limitations that you have is one thing excepting them as the only truth is a choice and no matter where you are on that spectrum you can choose to want to do that will be harder for some people Time are the ones that of been working for so motions project they just never had to do it right now they feel like they have to do it versus the most productive way to work they have to believe that is the most productive as I don't want to do it I found having something that you're going after that encourages you or motivate you to do something you don't really want to do is a good idea yeah there's also the approach of taking this as change management there are a number of change management models out there personally I'm certified in the pro side change management model PROSE I sent people to their website there are stages that you go through Being the first two steps so as you're making this change as you're approaching the need to network be aware of your ability to say yes I want to do this because the second stage so if you can get the awareness of why we do this at the risk of not doing it that can help you build that desire to get out there and actually start networking and we talked about this the anatomy of the networking conversation helps with the physically speaking networking is the most effective way to find your next position and will leave the link in the show notes today it's a four-part series you're welcome to download nuggets in there he would benefit from Really what do you want yeah what do you want them for companies you want to work for clarity around that will lead you to certain people in certain companies you may not have a really good point when it comes to titles so often we think of the titl...

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Andrew and Scott have been displaced a combined 9 times in their careers. We share ideas about processing and coping with a recent job loss from a layoff.

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How to process after a surprise layoff.

Processing the grief.

Approaching the mental and emotional processing.

The power of time and how to manage it.

Seeking helpful coping mechanisms.

Where to find support organizations.

Strategies for doing networking when the layoff is "fresh"

Things I wish someone had told me when I was laid off

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The power of vulnerability | Brené Brown

JSR 002 Networking Conversations For Job Search Success

4-Part Series on the Anatomy of a Networking ConversationJSR 015: The Set-Up

JSR 016: The IcebreakerJSR 017: The Question and Answer

JSR 018: The Ask 

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I were talking about what do you do when you get laid off and how to approach that process and getting started you know how do you how do you process current statistics are changing but we know that this year good number of times someone has been out of work is much is a higher number than it used to be in years past. I am one that I have been laid off from jobs five times that’s not fired that’s actually laid off I can’t say that I’ve been fired. I’ve had four transitions in my career and so only one of those really a formal lay off for a corporation actually add a workforce reduction program which was a politically correct way of saying you’re fired. it’s happened to me where it is two cases I was looking for work either because I saw the writing on the wall or I was unaware of the political stuff that was going on and so we came as a huge surprise. and I think that is the scenario that’s hard when you’re not prepared emotionally much less professionally for your next move and when we when were terminated outside of our own control it really is hard on the eagle it’s hard on the finances because all of a sudden you often have to cover your own health benefits.

If you have done and all of the expenses that come with not having work anybody who’s gone through it will now all of a sudden the way you take care of your bills changes it care of your bills changes and decided they really go away when you lose a half 1 million is the job he should lose all those external navigate right now then nobody would work but it’s good to acknowledge the fact that this is now a tough time and as your processing guess it it’s a moment of grief you are losing your work family you are losing the disability of all the plans you have made based on the income that you’re on and see the job that you have and it’s really hard in that moment to look at this as an advantage or a blessing or whatever word you want to use it when people do that though they just come to you and say oh this is how you should be feeling oh yeah brother work you this. I have you know that that blessing in disguise well you know something I don’t want it to Be disguises right now!

Yeah I’m a little pissed off and so if you are in this position you there at the listener or if you know someone who is here is an opportunity for empathy to really come in bring a brown does a really good talk on empathy and you can find different pieces of it out online go to YouTube Brene Brown she’s amazing one of the things that she talks about is anytime you hear someone say at least and then goes on to talk about something worse that’s not it but he may be there attempt to being helpful but in this moment what somebody who is been laid off needs to hear is you are not alone.

I’ve been there or either I can appreciate where you are you are not alone if you need something I’m here for you and that by itself is really helpful if only in the moment it is still helpful. I did that’s what you need to say to yourself that’s OK take a moment to breathe take some time yeah it is a grieving process and when I w...

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Bias does exist in the job market. How it presents itself can be more unknown than obvious.

The bigger question is what to do when you feel discriminated, or victimized by ageism. 

Don't miss these Topics:

Self-Talk and Mindset.

How to position your experience.

Networking for "Seasoned" workers

Addressing feelings of being overqualified.

Branding  your wisdom.

The Importance of Value, Reputation, and Relationships.

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025 Looking for Work After a Long Break

005 Coping with Job Loss [mindset] 

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Today and job seekers radio we’re talking about seasoned workers – those that have lost their way professionally and found themselves feeling…

I'm out dated

No one will hire me I'm too experienced

I'm a Dinosaur

I can’t find a job must be my age

They didn't hire me because I'm too old, and it’s discrimination – ageism

You’ve been “ageisted”

How do you feel about that Scott? I’ve seen people they still have gas in the tank. They say people are living longer and they are dealing with these feelings.

I will admit even in my current job I've said, “I feel like a Dinosaur because I don't use technology way my younger colleagues do.” I have to resist that even within my own head. The idea that I'm not good enough because I may look at things a little differently.

It’s a really important topic to turn that around. In previous podcast we talked about standing guard at the entrance tour mind, you gave the quote better than I did. The self-talk and how we need to regulate this. Having experience, being a more seasoned professional is an advantage. It may be your competitive advantage.  

It may be true that some people just want to hire the inexperience, so they can mold them pay them less. But it's been my observation that is less true in the majority of times. They are really looking fit - whether that's cultural fit - whether that is a skill gap fit - whether it's a style fit - whatever that is they’re looking fit - not necessarily age.

So, if you are a seasoned professional – well I just tell my story. The job that I have now, is a phenomenal job, I love what I do, I’m so lucky I get to say I love the work that I do and I'm earning a living at doing what I love. So, few people get to say that.

I would not have had this job had I not had the conversation with a hiring manager about the fact that I was overqualified. It was - I was applying for a coordinator position - administrative assistant position - I had already applied for this job, at this company, for a different position that was given to somebody whose skill set was so much better than mine - and I acknowledge that at the time. If I had been given the option to hire me or this young woman, I would have gone with her, because she absolutely has the skills for that position and is phenomenal to work with. I saw the admin assistant position come open, so I contacted the person with whom I had interviewed with the first time. And I asked what are the chances that I would be considered for this job even though I'm overqualified. He responded, because I had a good conversation with him, he went ahead responded to me and we talked about it and he asked me “aren't you concerned about having - about being overqualified.

Logical question, right? Because their fear is Oh well you’re overqualified you're going to quit this job as soon as you get another one because I was looking for work right. I've been laid off from a similar job although with an organization I didn't really care for as well. So, here is one that I knew culturally it would have been better fit and here I had an opportunity to talk to somebody that was very positive, very empathetic, great conversations that I had in the past, and he asked me how would I feel. Because he wouldn't want to hire me into a position that I wasn't happy in right.

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Finding a job after a break, whether from raising a family, a medical issue, to care for a family member, or any other reason can have it's unique issues. Launching your search with confidence is the topic of this episode

Scott and Andrew provide insights on how to approach situations where you have not been working for awhile.

Don't miss these Topics:

Mindset of Strength

Personal decisions and what to share

Maintaining positive self-talk

How to make a recovery and remain resilient

Structuring the resume

Gaps and how to handle them

Networking conversation topics

Overcoming the "pigeon hole"

Resources (including affiliate links)

4-Part Series on the Anatomy of a Networking ConversationJSR 015: The Set-Up

JSR 016: The IcebreakerJSR 017: The Question and Answer

JSR 018: The Ask 

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 View TranscriptToday on job seekers radio we’re talking about launching a job search after a long break I use air quotes of course because there's a lot of reasons why you would have a break in your employment. You might have just had a child or you're raising kids in you want to be a stay at home parent you might be on some other kind of family leave it's all good maybe you're taking care of whatever your parents could be a sabbatical your break from this or maybe you were lucky enough to sell your equity in a firm and you just decided you didn't want to work anymore right number of friends who have retired early and then decided they wanted to go back into the workforce because they wanted to either regain their skill levels or maybe they wanted to start a different career in something they were more passion about I also have personal experience with long term unemployment during the Great Recession back in 2008/2009 I was unemployed for 3 years I was able to do some consulting during that time but I wasn't really fully employed for 3 years that and that was tough.Yeah it's hard and in some cases people will take that situation take some consulting maybe even go with the contract role all but it's not their ideal and so there may be part time I mean they're just doing something to pay the bills which is totally normal I think the idea here is you’re not the only one this season falls on all of us in it affect it can affect us all in the same way. right what's really interesting is how it affects people depending upon the kind of career they've had those of us who had a career where change was considered normal or it's expected I was in an industry for a while where if you were in the same job for more than a couple years people would ask why are you still doing that because there was an expectation that you would move on to a different company because that's how you moved up there other times when somebody who's been in a job for 25-30 years who gets laid off before they had intended to retire and now they don't know what to do. in all these different cases we have to remember when our values are how that lack of employment affects how we perceive elements of our identity. if we identify with our career or with the role that we play that can really wreak havoc on how we view ourselves. so launching career or relaunching it after these brakes can seem daunting weed we don't want to gloss over the emotional impact that being away from work and have on you but we can use that emotional impact really to supercharge our efforts to guide us in the right directions. They say Scott that games or one and lost by 6 inches 6 inches between your ears in the mindset checking in on your mindset self-talk is so critically important you really need to be conscious when you're telling yourself oh do I have what it takes oh am I good enough right so I'm older how did the door but I mean there's so many things that come into my mind that people are saying to themselves as part of this process. self-doubt and self-talk are things that I talked to people about off and I know how it worked ...

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Most everyone searching for work has a LinkedIn profile. What happens when you have a LinkedIn profile but you never used it?

Don't ignore the value of leveraging Facebook if you don't have a LinkedIn presence. Scott and Andrew share some ideas about how to leverage your current Facebook friends list and the resources on the platform you likely weren't aware of!

Don't miss these Topics:

Using Facebook for networking

Searching for opportunities and people

Following company pages

Finding job postings

Comments and news

Social platform triangulation

What mindset and approach you need for networking

Resources (including affiliate links)

4-Part Series on the Anatomy of a Networking ConversationJSR 015: The Set-Up

JSR 016: The IcebreakerJSR 017: The Question and Answer

JSR 018: The Ask

Facebook Job Posting Platform 

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Getting stale in your job and not knowing which way to turn is something we all face. Moving from where you are to where you want to be is the topic of this episode. 

Scott and Andrew discuss ideas about how you can map your future career and improve your position inside your current company, maybe even getting promoted.

Don't miss these Topics:

Where did the mojo go 

Where am I going? Is this the right place for me?

Transition is an opportunity to look at fresh direction.

First job out of college, the honeymoon is over, what's next?

Who is responsible for my career succession planning

Ways to break out of the daily grind of your job

How to Handle Change 

What goes into a Career Plan

Look inside or look outside

Value of networking and coaching

What to do about organizational politics 

Resources (including affiliate links)

StrengthsFinder 2.0StandOut 2.0What Color is Your Parachute 

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