Jobsharing And Beyond

Happier at Work expert and podcast host Aoife O'Brien joined the "Job Sharing and Beyond" podcast earlier this year. If you have missed our conversation, here is the link:

https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-29-aoife-obrien/

In today's episode, Aoife and I followed up from our previous conversation, talking about the following topics:

- Trust and psychological safety as a continuation to our conversation about Aoife's master thesis "Fitting in at work".

-Flexible work: We talked about the 4 day work week which is how we met in the first place and the recent discussion about hybrid work.

-Aoife shared her favorite book:

"Enough" by John Naish https://amz.run/4kqC

How to reach Aoife:

LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aoifemobrien/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/happieratworkpodcast/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/happieratwork.ie/

Twitter:

https://twitter.com/HappierAtWorkHQ

Website:

https://happieratwork.ie/

If you would like to learn more about the 4 day week, here is the link to my previous conversation with Charlotte Lockhart, the co-founder of the 4 Day Week Global and partner of Andrew Barnes who introduced the concept to his company Perpetual Guardian and who wrote the book "The 4 Day Week". https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-6-charlotte-lockhart/

I also spoke previously with Alex Soojung-Kim Pang who wrote the books "Rest" and "Shorter". In the book "Shorter" Alex shares his research and interviews with companies already working in a 4 day work week method around the world as well as other flexible work such as Lasse Rheingans' 5 hour work days. https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-19-alex-soojung-kim-pang/

If you would like to support the podcast:

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How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

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Julia Collard & Sven Schnitzler are joint leaders of the Marketing and Sales Department of a private University near Cologne, Germany. They are responsible for a team of 40 creative and curious people.

Beside this they are Founder and CEO of Doppel[t]spitze, a consultancy for Online Marketing and Communication.

Their passion is storytelling – everyone has a very unique story that is worth to talk about.

Share your story!

How to connect to Doppel[t]spitze:

LinkedIn

Doppel[t]spitze:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/doppeltspitze/

Julia Collard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-collard/

Sven Schnitzler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sven-schnitzler/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/doppeltspitze

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doppeltspitze/

What we talked about:

3:52: Professional background & Doppel[t]spitze

12:13 "Rethinking HR" - recently published book by Doppel[t]spitze

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/rethinking-hr-julia-collard/1139348086

https://amz.run/4kTl

16:22 Top Sharing and job sharing chapter written by Doppel[t]spitze in the book

19:45 More aspects of the book

26:22 Advice for someone interested in starting job sharing/ top sharing at their organization

34:38 Initiative Klischeefrei

https://www.klischee-frei.de/de/index.php

We talked about Melanie Belitza and Heike Rosenberg, two of the authors in the Rethinking HR book and previous podcast guests:

Melanie Belitza:

https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-22-melanie-belitza/

Heike Rosenberg:

https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-25-heike-rosenberg/

And here is the episode with Aapta Garg we also talked about:

https://emilyspath.ca/47-aapta-garg-equal-unpaid-care-work-is-92-years-away/

If you would like to support the podcast:

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How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EmilysPathConsulting

Irenka Krone and Nina Prochazka, Swiss job sharing experts, were the inaugural guests on the Job Sharing and Beyond podcast.

This is the link to the original episode:

https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-1-irenka-krone-and-nina-prochazka/

In today's episode Irenka and Nina give a quick overview what job sharing and top sharing really means, share updates on their work, present practical tips about FAQs for job sharers and more.

Today's episode was previously recorded via LinkedIn Live. Here is the link: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/karin-tischler_job-sharing-experts-irenka-krone-germann-activity-6819084192857632768-YL53

Favorite books they mentioned today:

Irenka: "L'enfant de sable" by Ben Jelloun

Nina: "Americanah" by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

Short bio for Irenka Krone and Nina Prochazka:

Irenka has been pioneering job sharing in Switzerland and beyond for more than 10 years. She is the co-founder & director of the Part-Time Optimisation Association (PTO) with its website goforjobsharing as well as the job-sharing matchmaking platform We Jobshare.

Irenka holds a doctorate in labour economics and has authored several books and papers on job sharing and part-time employment.

This includes co-directing a book about job & top sharing where 34 leading authors from 5 countries participated in.

Nina Prochazka, her co-head at the knowledge management, communication & network department at Cinfo, is an organizational and HR development expert with a master's in international relations and has worked in the Middle East for several years. Nina has been involved with job sharing from a multitude of perspectives including being part of PTO's Advisory Committee. Both Irenka and Nina have worked previously at the State Secretariat for Economic Affairs in Bern.

Irenka Krone LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/irenka-krone-germann-444a497/

Nina Prochazka LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nina-prochazka-b57a0018/

If you would like to support the podcast:

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How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

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Aapta Garg is a Senior Program Officer at Promundo, her role is to support programmatic initiatives across the organization's thematic areas.

She focuses primarily on Promundo's programs in Latin America and the Caribbean managing multiple programs and initiatives to integrate gender-transformative approaches to advance gender equality and prevent violence.

In her role as Program Officer, she designs programming and curricula, facilitates capacity-building trainings, monitors and evaluates programmatic impacts, and coordinates multi-stakeholder projects.

Aapta also manages several programs around fatherhood, caregiving, violence prevention, and building capacity of local grassroots organizations and activists.

She also serves as the technical co-coordinator of the MenCare Campaign.

She previously worked at Vital Voices Global Partnership as Program Coordinator for Latin America and the Caribbean, coordinating the implementation of trainings, programs, and emergency assistance grants related to gender-based violence and human trafficking.

Prior to her time at Vital Voices, she worked for four years as a Community Liaison and Legal Assistant at MFY Legal Services where she oversaw projects related to community development and advocacy on behalf of low-income New Yorkers.

Aapta received her Master's Degree in International Development with a focus on Gender and Development from American University's School of International Service. She also has a BA in Political Science and Hispanic Studies from Vassar College.

How to reach Aapta:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaptagarg/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/Promundo_US

Websites:

Promundo: https://promundoglobal.org/

MenCare: https://men-care.org/

State of the World's Fathers: http://stateoftheworldsfathers.org/

What we talked about:

3:44 Promundo history

7:00 Findings of the State of the World's Fathers report 2021 edition

15:27 Seven actions from the State of the World's Fathers report

21:26 Generation Equality Forum in Paris - next steps

26:17 Action 6 from the report - talking about job sharing and top sharing

Full transcript of our conversation:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZiVlLgr05IV4UJotGuIyPDKICJREyrfr71fGqbfJra8/edit?usp=sharing

If you would like to support the podcast:

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How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EmilysPathConsulting

This special episode covers three main topics:

1. The reason behind the name of Emily's Path Consulting and the "Job Sharing and Beyond" podcast

2. Generation Equality Forum

3. Upcoming News

1. The Job Sharing and Beyond podcast is part of the services my company "Emily's Path Consulting" offers.

The story why the Amazonian princess Emily or "would be aunt of Wonder Woman" is the base for Emily's Path Consulting's name. https://theconversation.com/wonder-women-have-been-smashing-the-patriarchy-since-classical-times-77695?fbclid=IwAR0yvbkEwKq6piCtXVWqxBXKQMcxS4TL9g_KL47j16l1Oj_EtwF0o31rrYE

2. Announcements from the Generation Equality Forum:

Conclusion announcement:

https://forum.generationequality.org/news/generation-equality-forum-concludes-paris-announcement-revolutionary-commitments-and-global

Global Alliance for Care: https://www.unwomen.org/en/news/stories/2021/7/news-gef-paris-to-build-back-better-transform-and-invest-in-the-care-economy

State of the World's Fathers' report:

http://stateoftheworldsfathers.org/

3. Upcoming news

Inaugural LinkedInLive guest conversation with Irenka Krone and Nina Prochazka information, July 8th 9am PST:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/karin-tischler_job-sharing-experts-irenka-krone-and-nina-activity-6816446989006467072--0s3

Their inaugural podcast episode: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-1-irenka-krone-and-nina-prochazka/

If you would like to support the podcast:

Ko-fi Account: Ko-fi.com/karintischler

Buy me a coffee Account: https://buymeacoffee.com/KarinTischler

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EmilysPathConsulting

My guest is a great example of how a non-linear career as well as experiences like being a contestant on Fear Factor led to transferable business skills and innovation.

I can highly recommend David Epstein's book "Range" that talks more about that very topic. And he also includes in his book the example of Frances Hesselbein, a leadership visionary who started her professional career in her mid-fifties, becoming CEO of Girl Scouts USA by drawing on her many decades of volunteer and unpaid care work earlier.

But now without further ado, let me introduce my guest to you.

Eddie Lin started his career in New York at UBS Investment Bank and Goldman Sachs. After moving to California, he transitioned into marketing at Adobe and then Strategy and Business Development at Live Nation/Ticketmaster.

Upon graduation from business school Eddie decided to become a contestant on the reality-TV show Fear Factor where he ate 20 live bees on the season finale. After realizing that traditional education did not actually prepare him for his jobs, he founded NexusEdge to democratize access to economic opportunity by bringing employer-specific training and hiring into the classroom.

NexusEdge is an alumni of the Techstars Kansas City accelerator and has since partnered with Google, Citi Ventures, LinkedIn, Canvas, and Shopify on career pathways with a focus on community colleges.

Eddie holds a degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Texas at Austin and an MBA from the University of Southern California where he served as Student Body President.

How can you reach Eddie:

Email: [email protected]

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-lin-3b20714/

LinkedIn NexusEdge: https://www.linkedin.com/company/nexusedge/

Website: https://www.nexusedge.com/

What we talked about:

We spoke about how to make the hiring process more equitable and Eddie what made him decide to found NexusEdge, what it does and how it reduces bias in the hiring process.

Eddie and I covered many aspects of skills:

Transferable business skills from being a student and professional returning to paid after a long period of absence

Transferable skills from various aspects of one's professional life

Skills from attending Fear Factor

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EmilysPathConsulting

Today is a special episode to celebrate the upcoming Father's Day in many countries around the world.

If you are a regular listener, you will have heard me talk to wonderful dad advocates around the world. If you have not had a chance to listen to our conversations, I will put the episodes with Jake, Robert, Michael, Gabriel, Josh, Ian, Rob, John and Dan in the show notes.

Jake Stika: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-40-jake-stika/

Robert Frischbier: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-37-luisa-hanke-and-robert-frischbier/ (part of the interview with Luisa Hanke) https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-robert-frischbier/

Michael Ray: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-33-michael-ray/

Gabriel Rath: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-30-gabriel-rath/

Josh Levs: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-24-josh-levs/

Ian Dinwiddy: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-15-ian-dinwiddy/

Rob Sturrock: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-8-rob-sturrock/

John Adams: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-john-adams/

Dan Reed: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-5-dan-reed/

Today I will talk about these main topics:

1.The recently published State of the World's Fathers 2021 report

http://stateoftheworldsfathers.org/

Episode with Elly Oldenbourg: https://emilyspath.ca/43-elly-oldenbourg-what-flexible-working-models-have-to-do-with-the-future-of-work/

2.The newly updated paternity leave law in Japan.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/06/03/national/social-issues/japan-law-paternity-leave-flexible-men/

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/maternity-leave-men-japan-joe-peters/?trackingId=ba2E0ksfbdx6TAnku0AeGA%3D%3D

3. And I will highlight two recently released books from father advocates.

Michael Ray: Who knew? https://amz.run/4f8y

Elliott Rae: Dad: Untold stories of Fatherhood, Love, Mental Health and Masculinity https://amz.run/4f8z

If you would like to support the podcast:

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How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EmilysPathConsulting

I am really honored to welcome Elly Oldenbourg as my guest! Today's podcast episode will be about what flexible working models have to do with the future of work.

Elly is a future of work expert, sidepreneur and manager @ Google.

She is a proud Gen Y with an extensive multicultural background, a mother and has been working in marketing & sales for 16+ years in various global corporations.

For the past 9+ years Elly has been a manager at Google, most recently in the EMEA diversity, equity & inclusion department. She has been working part-time in the past 4+ years mainly as a job sharer. As a sidepreneur she is the founder and host of thought-provoking salons, a coach, writer, and speaker.

I really appreciate this quote from Elly's website www.ellyoldenbourg.com :

"With this „non-linear" life of mine, I've been increasingly invited to talk about on the „Future of Work" publicly, in which I have been encouraging people to explore new work paradigms, to challenge our structural status quo and to demystify "New Work" beyond the tools and the buzzwords.

I believe we, especially us corporate peeps, need to raise braver demands – not only towards ourselves, but also towards our employers and politicians – regarding the way we work, we economize, we incentivize. To finally address the structural changes required for a more just, a more sustainable and a digitally future-proof tomorrow for everyone."

How to find Elly Oldenbourg:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elly-oldenbourg-305b8529/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elly_oldenbourg/

Website: www.ellyoldenbourg.de

www.ellyoldenbourg.com

Elly Oldenbourg Photo Copyright: Xenia Bluhm

What we talked about:

10:26 Jobsharing

16:03 Most surprising about job sharing

19:03 Tips for people to start job sharing

23:13 Sidepreneur

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/jobsharingandbeyond/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

Twitter: https://twitter.com/karin_tischler

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintischlerbc/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/emilyspathca/?viewAsMember=true

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This episode includes quick questions for my podcast guests from episodes 38-41. It is so interesting to learn about their answers and insights to the questions.

Here are the links to their previous episodes:

#38 Luisa Hanke & Robert Frischbier

https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-37-luisa-hanke-and-robert-frischbier/

#39 Kristi Rible

https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-39-kristi-rible/

#40 Jake Stika

https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-40-jake-stika/

#41 Michelle Baessler

https://emilyspath.ca/41-michelle-baessler-social-entrepreneurship-and-coworking-spaces-with-childcare/

Here is the list of my guests' favorite books:

Luisa Hanke:

• "Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway" by Susan Jeffers
• "The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters" by Priya Parker

Robert Frischbier:

• "The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team: A Leadership Fable" by Patrick Lencioni

Kristi Rible:

• "Motel of the Mysteries" by David Macaulay

Jake Stika:

• "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl

Michelle Bässler:

• "21 Lessons for the 21st Century" by Yuval Noah Harari

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How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/

Instagram:

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Twitter: https://twitter.com/JobsharingByond

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Michelle Bäßler thought she would be one of those jetset Expat consultants, travelling the world with her family, doing important business. Her International Management studies and her view on the organisation as a whole gave her a good start into that career path.

But she has always placed major importance on the people she has been optimizing and digitalising processes for.

A few months into motherhood, she found returning into her previous position as head of organisational development, much harder than expected. Since then Michelle has grown into the social entrepreneurship world as founder of COSI, with the mission to redefine work-family-balance for parents.

Wanting to open a coworking with childcare space in Stuttgart, Germany she has been uncovering the structual, economic and social barriers especially mothers face when trying to juggle kids and career.

Now she is acting as an ambassador, founding an NGO the Coworking Childcare Connection Germany. Together with other space founders and operators, she works to shed a light on these social challenges, to gather innovative approaches and to highlight the positive impacts these proof of concepts already have on society.

How to contact Michelle:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-b%C3%A4%C3%9Fler-b67ba9a6/

Website: https://socialimpact.eu/community/team/cosi

What we talked about:

4:54 Why did she start COSI?

7:38 Challenges creating coworking spaces with childcare

18:42 COSI Fellowship

23:56 Best practice to start a coworking space with childcare

How to contact Karin?

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

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