Jobsharing And Beyond

I am very delighted to welcome Gabriel Rath to the show today! Gabreal is my first rapper guest! He hosts the German speaking podcast NewWorkChat where he has interviewed experts in digital transformation about their biggest learnings as well as discusses with his guests new work, work-life balance and more. His guests have included the first Danish mayor in a German city, flexible work advocates as well his grandfather.

Gabriel describes himself being between daddy mode and digital life. He is married, dad of 3 daughters, a digital strategist, working at Mandarin Medien agency advising companies to implement concepts for internal and external communication and for digital transformation.

He has been a blogger since 2005, is a sought after keynote speaker and guest blogger about many topics including new work, work life balance and more.

How to contact Gabriel:

Podcast https://gabrielrath.com/newworkchat/

Blog www.gabrielrath.com

Social Media www.twitter.com/gabrealness

www.instagram.com/gabrealness

www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielrath/

www.xing.com/profile/Gabriel_Rath

www.youtube.com/gabrielrath

What we talked about:

3:25 Between daddy mode and digital life

7:04 Work/ life blending

10:13 Working Out Loud method in a school

15:58 Teaching kids skills for the future

20:47 Podcast NewWorkChat

25:59 New Work

31:45 More details about Gabriel's professional background

38:37 Transferable/ intergenerational skills from parenting

Here is the link to the anonymous "Job Sharing and Beyond" podcast Season 1 survey! Thank you so much for providing feedback to make Season 2 even more helpful and productive for listeners around the world!

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

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I am very happy to introduce my guest, Aoife O'Brien.

Aoife is a Happiness at Work expert.

She is passionate about 'fit' and specifically how creating the right environment can help individuals to reach their full potential and support organizations to thrive.

Before launching her own business, Happier at Work, Aoife had a successful 17 years career in the corporate world, working with global companies like Coca Cola, Unilever and Heinz to solve marketing problems using data analytics.

Her clients are primarily HR and business leaders, and they hire Aoife for speaking engagements, training workshops, and consultancy programs (including People Analytics).

Aoife hosts the podcast "Happier at Work" showcasing with her global guests methods to improve employee retention, engagement and performance.

She has lived and worked in Dublin, London, Perth, and Sydney and has a MSc in Work and Organisational Behaviour.

It was very insightful to talk with Aoife as her and my focus overlap in the future of work aspect of employment. While Aoife looks at workplace fit from many different angles including flexible work, my focus is all about flexible work – from who it benefits to the different types and more. Together we aim to create more inclusive and diverse work environments leading to more employee retention and better financial results.

How to reach Aoife:

LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aoifemobrien/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/happieratworkpodcast/

Website:

https://happieratwork.ie/happier-at-work-podcast/

Twitter:

https://twitter.com/HappierAtWorkHQ

What we spoke about today:

3:30 Aoife's corporate career

4:34 Research findings from her master's thesis "Fitting in at Work: How needs satisfaction explains the relationship between fit and work outcomes".

8:12 Further insights about thesis: Trust as a crucial aspect of work

16:08 Flexible work and how this leads to more gender equality

23:17 How flexible work helps with needs satisfaction

30:46 Interesting management concept at Happy company: Choose your own manager & manager as coach

37:58 Meeting employees needs during covid19

43:13 Creating more male role models as carers

Previous episodes that were mentioned in this episode:

Tiina Bruno, founder of Parentsmart Employer: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-21-tiina-bruno/

Alex Soojung-Kim Pang: Author of the book "Shorter": https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-19-alex-soojung-kim-pang/

Prof. Dr. Eleonore Soei-Winkels: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-13-prof-dr-eleonore-soei-winkels/

Charlotte Lockhart, CEO of the 4 Day Week Global: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-6-charlotte-lockhart/

Nina Strassner, Head of D&I at SAP Germany: https://emilyspath.ca/jobsharing-and-beyond-episode-4-nina/

Articles that were mentioned in this episode:

German Co-CEO Rubin Ritter steps down to focus on wife's career while doing care work for firstborn and soon to-be-born second child. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-10/ceo-to-forgo-potential-112-million-bonus-to-back-wife-s-career

Nasdaq: In the recent G7-EU WEPs (Women's Empowerment Principles) award ceremony "A special recognition went to Nasdaq for its new proposed listing requirements on board diversity and greater transparency." https://www.weps.org/event/2020-g7-eu-weps-award-winners-announced

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

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I am delighted to introduce my guest Robert Frischbier today. After receiving his diploma in business administration Robert worked in the automotive industry for about 12 years.

While being responsible for the quality management and inside sales he learned how difficult it was for a young parent to balance work and life in a very traditional industry. He will share more about this experience in our conversation and how this led him to co-found together with his wife 2PAARSchultern which means two pairs of shoulders in German and describes their own lifestyle best.

Beside his work as a consultant and coach Robert works as an auditor for the renowned Bertelsmann Foundation certifying companies as family friendly employers.

How to connect with Robert:

LinkedIn

Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-frischbier-4b939272/

2PAARSchultern: https://www.linkedin.com/company/2paarschultern-gbr/

Website - includes links to the podcast 2PAARSchultern

https://www.2paarschultern.de/

What we talked about:

4:32 Why did you create 2PAARSchultern?

8:31 What is the mission of your 2PAARSchultern podcast?

12:00 Your work as assessor for the Bertelsmann's Family Friendly Employer Stamp of Approval

13:47 How is flexible work included when assessing potential family friendly employers?

18:52 Consequence of including flexible work options as part of job descriptions

20:52 Support for professional returners in Germany

23:17 Transferable skills from unpaid care work

27:27 Fathers & care role models

30:10 Importance of top management in becoming a family friendly employer

31:14 Best practice employers during covid19

Link to the article about caring versus providing dad by associate professor Lee T. Gettler:

https://www.childandfamilyblog.com/child-development/nurturing-fatherhood-rooted-male-biology/

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

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I am very appreciative to introduce our guest for today, Lisbeth Odgaard Madsen. Lisbeth is the founder and CEO of Potential Company, focusing particularly on the talent pipeline consequences because of the mental rift between family and ambition for men and women. Potential Company expands the opportunities for gender diversity at all levels of the talent pipeline. Lisbeth is the author of the book "Mother with Ambition" written in Danish. She has been advisor and speaker of various areas of diversity and talent retention.

How you can connect with Lisbeth:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisbethomadsen/

Website: http://www.potentialco.dk/da

Email [email protected] - please mention that you heard her speak on this podcast

What we talked about:

5:04 Why did Lisbeth start Potential Company?

8:36 "Keep in Touch" conversations

14:01 Lisbeth's book "Mothers with ambition"

17:20 Flexible work in Denmark

24:20 #stoptalentwaste

27:22 Talent programs for professionals in their 40s

If you are interested to learn more transferable skills from parenting, the following episode may be interesting for you:

Heike Rosenberg: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-25-heike-rosenberg/

Tiina Bruno: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-21-tiina-bruno/

Dr. Stephanie Robben-Beyer: https://emilyspath.ca/job-sharing-and-beyond-episode-16-dr-stephanie-robben-beyer/

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

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Cheney Hamilton is the CEO and Founder of Find Your Flex, parent company of MummyJobs.co.uk and Daddyjobs.co.uk. She initially founded these two companies in 2017, out of her personal need for flexibility. She will tell us more about this in the interview.

The response to their launch was overwhelming, 1.27 million people got in touch over 10 days, showing a clear need and interest about flexible work.

Before founding her companies, Cheney had worked in recruitment as both a consultant and media sales for over 16 years.

Cheney has recently been awarded the prestigious Community Maker Award by She Has No Limits which is given out annually to celebrate women's achievements in the workplace.

Cheney's future goal is to become a MP to make real change in the workplace from within parliament for everyone in the UK. She took her first steps this past summer by joining the 50:50 Parliamentary Group.

How to contact Cheney:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheney-hamilton-84b06713b/

Website: https://findyourflex.co.uk/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Jobs.FindYourFlex/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/findyour_flex/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/FindYour_Flex

What we talked about:

3:59 What made Cheney decide to start mommyjobs.co.uk and daddyjobs.co.uk?

13:02 Non-parents interested in a flexible job

15:03 More research about people interested in flexible jobs

22:15 What is the definition of flexible works during/ after covid times

27:09 How to write a resume that includes unpaid care work time

40:04 How to start flexible working at a company?

42:57 When do you mention flexible working when applying for job? (includes reference to UK specific legislation)

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

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After graduating with a linguistics and economics degree from FU Berlin, Heike Rosenberg worked for the German health insurance IKK Suedwest, including 10 years as a HR manager. She also led the expert group on work-life balance.

In early 2019, Heike founded Heike Rosenberg Consulting on a part-time basis focusing on competency management and development consulting with organizations. She also works as a coach, ProfilPASS consultant and speaker focused on competency development, in particular on family competency.

Since February 2020 Heike has been the HR Business Partner at proAlpha Business Solutions GmbH.

How to reach Heike:

Website: https://www.consulting-rosenberg.de/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/HR_Rosenberg

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heike-rosenberg-b48363156/

Topics we talked about:

2:53 From linguistics & economics to HR

4:05 Transferable competencies

7:19 Levels/ intensity of skills/ competencies

10:56 Transferable skills & skills for Work 4.0

12:36 Appreciation by employees that transferable skills are being recognized

13:41 Covid19 and its impact

15:39 ProfilePASS (profile passport)

18:56 How to start with skill recognition at work

19:56 How to deal with skeptical managers

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

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Josh Levs is an entrepreneur, former CNN and NPR journalist, and the leading global expert on modern fathers in the workplace. He is the author of the award-winning book All In: How Our Work-First Culture Fails Dads, Families and Businesses- And How We Can Fix It Together. The United Nations named him Global Champion of Gender Equality. The Financial Times named him one of the world's top 10 male feminists. He recently participated in the UN Women's Empowerment Principles' documentary "The Power of Partnerships for Achieving Gender Equality". In our conversation we cover many different topics from fathers' caregiving, flexible work, transferable business skills unpaid care work, covid19's impact and more.

How to contact Josh

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshlevs/

Website: https://joshlevs.com/

What we talked about:

2:50 How Josh became a dad's activist

5:21 Author of All In

8:21 Flexible jobs & issues

12:09 Unpaid care work for both men and women

13:40 TEDx Talk Removing the "Men-Can't" Myths

16:17 Advertising - what could be improved?

19:34 Transferable soft skills from unpaid care work

24:17 What needs to happen in the next 5 years to get to gender equality faster?

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

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Margret Steinle is working for the City of Munich in Germany and organizes the project power_m Perspektive Wiedereinstieg.

It is Germany's largest project for supporting professionals to return to work after an extended career break.

power_m advises about 500 women each year and is funded by the EU, the German Ministry for Women and Families, as well as the City of Munich. Margret studied business administration and has experience in the banking, communications, and consulting industry. A mother of three, she works part-time and knows all about balancing „two" jobs.

How to reach Margret:

Margret Steinle: [email protected]

power_m: https://www.power-m.net/

Some English information as part of the https://eurocities.eu/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2019_Munich_Employment_and_Qualification_Program__MBQ_.pdf - power_m is on page 8 and 9.

What Margret and I spoke about:

2:34 How did she start working for power_m?

4:13 How did power_m get started?

6:08 Typical profile of a returner

8:49 Flexible jobs & returning professionals

10:25 The Sandwich generation

13:50 Impact of covid on power_m

18:50 How are employers involved with power_m?

23:55 Transferable business skills from unpaid care work

27:30 Tech skills & returners

32:42 power_m alumni

35:52 Financial support of power_m

40:29 How did they start reaching out to potential power_m participants initially?

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

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Melanie Belitza is the Head of Technical Documentation and Training at an international systems mobility company where she has had a successful career since graduating with a B.Sc. in Industrial Engineering 9 years ago.

Starting this year, she has been leading her team on a part-time basis (4 days a week) and on the fifth day she is following her passion for life-long learning through exploration of concepts about the future of work and networking. She has been documenting her experiences of this innovative work concept in her German language blog.

Her own practical experience and research of the many different perspectives of working part-time has led her to creating a "Blog Parade about part time work", a German language social media initiative where nearly 20 professionals shared their own experience and reasons for alternative and flexible work models.

To increase the visibility and awareness of this important aspect of the future of work, Melanie is starting a weekly mini-interview series with the blog parade authors to learn more details about their decision-making process and diverse work models.

In this podcast episode, Melanie discusses more details about her life and work model, how she prepared her team for her working part time and her experiences during this journey. She also talks about the blog parade and the content of the articles, where for example the balance of work and family was mentioned. Additionally, she gives recommendations on how to start the discussion about part-time work with an employer and explains why it has many advantages for organizations to offer part-time and other flexible work models.

Connect with Melanie:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanie-belitza

https://twitter.com/BXsuitcase

https://bxsuitcase.de/

What we talked about:

6:30 Overview of Melanie's career

8:02 Why did she decide to start working part-time?

9:19 How did she coordinate her working model with her team?

10:17 Melanie's experience of having worked 4 day work weeks during the past 10 months

15:09 Why did Melanie create the German speaking "Blog Parade: Teilzeit" (social media initiative for people to write about their part-time/ flexible work models)?

17:27 What were the main reasons why blog parade participants started working part-time/ more flexibly?

26:59 How do you talk with your manager about potentially wanting to work part-time/ more flexibly?

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

Website: https://emilyspath.ca/

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Tiina Bruno is a Swedish mother of three, Change maker, economist, management consultant, author and international lecturer with over 20 years of work experience and founder of the Parentsmart Employers concept.

She is often referred to as a "norm breaker" for her way of daring to explore what companies and organizations actually mean with promises around inclusion, sustainable work life and work-life balance. Her pioneer initiatives challenge and develop traditional patterns in working life, promoting more concrete action to increase inclusion and social sustainability for all.

After research and launch of the Parentsmart Employers hand book in 2010 her perspective on the topic of working parents has received a lot of attention both in Sweden and abroad, mainly for using parenthood as a universal inclusion example relevant in all countries, with impact and benefits for all, not only parents.

Tiina has been invited to international conferences and arranges study visits to Swedish companies in cooperation with UN agencies and Embassies, as an expert in the area and with a strong belief in international exchange of experience.

The Parentsmart train-the-trainer model for global companies promotes the spread of best practice for all countries to develop faster and learn from each other. It shows employers potential impact to reach several Agenda 2030 goals.

How to contact Tiina:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiina-bruno-35a5177/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Parentsmartemployers

Website: http://parentsmartemployers.com

What we talked about:

3:32 2 questions that started it all

5:40 Tiina's Parentsmart Employers hand book

8:03 3 levels of Parentsmart Employers

10:57 Does the Parentsmart Employers concept also work outside of Sweden?

12:30 Why Tiina is called a "norm shifter" ?

15:32 ROI = Return on Inclusion

19:50 Attitude towards working parents

22:15 Latest UN projects

28:16 Interview with Daddy Joe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V09m9RYx9-A

30:46 Microsoft Sweden Parentsmart Pilot Project

34:43 Working grandparents

36:52 Train-the-trainer model

How to connect with Karin Tischler, producer and podcast host of "Job Sharing and Beyond", and founder of Emily's Path Consulting (EPC):

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