November 14, 2021

John Endres and Frans Cronje on SA's next transition

52 minutes

In this episode of the Solutions With David Ansara podcast, I speak with John Endres and Frans Cronje – the incoming and outgoing CEOs of the Institute of Race Relations – about the "next transition" in South African politics, and what this means for the future of the country.

We discuss the ongoing decline of the ANC, first predicted by the IRR in 2012, and how this will define SA politics in the run-up to the national and provincial elections in 2024.

Will the various opposition parties be able to put aside their differences and work together to form a broad front against the ANC and the EFF, I ask? How will this affect service delivery across the country and how should individuals and communities respond to this interregnum?

We also explore the IRR's mission of advancing classical liberalism in South Africa, and its role in fighting the "battle of ideas".

TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Intro

(00:19) Frans Cronje on the decline of ANC dominance

(02:32) John Endres on the political realignment

(07:37) Frans Cronje on Herman Mashaba and ActionSA

(14:54) John Endres on the future of the ANC

(20:18) Frans Cronje on the coalition dynamics in SA

(25:24) John Endres on how hung councils will affect service delivery

(29:56) Frans Cronje on developing a 'Plan B'

(32:49) John Endres on what the EFF will do

(35:29) Frans Cronje on the IRR and the battle of ideas

(40:36) Frans Cronje on Critical Race Theory vs. non-racialism

(44:05) John Endres on the future of the IRR

(48:35) John Endres on the principles of the IRR

(49:42) Conclusion

WATCH this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/nouCtKsiebc

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