D.C. film franchises have had a pretty lacklustre performance in recent years, and while they're struggling to find a suitably "heroic" hero for audiences to latch onto, Joker has come along to shake up your expectations on what a villain is like. Joaquin Phoenix has joined his stellar predecessors Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson and the late, great Heath Ledger (not to mention Jared Leto) with this standalone R-Rated portrayal of a freshly back-storied Joker. Arthur Fleck is a loner trying to fit into a society he feels he doesn't belong in. What could happen to this man that would make him into the Joker, and is that really a question we want answered?

Join Dion and Bec as they try to find a talking cure for their complex feelings about Joker.

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