Very pleased to welcome an old friend on the podcast in the form of Jordan Buckley from Better Lovers and previously from Every Time I Die. He's an accomplished artist, headbanger and thoughtful dude. He was WIDE open for this conversation and we go into spirituality, identity outside of what you "do" and full body headbangs. Better Lovers is coming for you, so be prepared.

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