Peter King talks to journeyman Jets quarterback Josh McCown and Dallas Cowboys architect and NFL.com analyst Gil Brandt.

In a unique football life podcast, McCown on the wild ride through 10 professional football teams (from Hartford to Oakland), on the wisdom gleaned from a season with Al Davis and the Raiders, on the strains and rewards on a family when the dad, husband and bread-winner lives apart from the family for months at a time.

Brandt on the birth of the Cowboys, on the unimaginable explosion of football’s popularity, on his life in football, and on a Dallas preseason game in a tiny town in Oregon a half century ago.

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