Jess is joined by JULIE GOLDMAN & BRANDY HOWARD (Dumb Gay Podcast, The People's Couch)! We discuss: Brandy & Julie's origin story, Jeff Lewis stealing guests from Heather McDonald, Howard Stern, Kate McKinnon, butch lesbian erasure, Logo's Big Gay Sketch Show, Bethenny and Nene, Kyle Richards gay baiting, the impact of Shane from The L Word on Brandy & more!

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Check out Jess' docu-pod series FINDING FIRE ISLAND about the history, mystique and lore of Cherry Grove & The Pines.