Colm Kelleher discusses the National Institute for Discovery Science's research into anomalous phenomena before Ted Randall addresses electromagnetic pulse threats. Kelleher examines NIDS investigations of cattle mutilations, UFO encounters, and paranormal events at Skinwalker Ranch. The conversation explores the scientific methodology NIDS applies to studying fringe phenomena and the evidence collected. Kelleher discusses the challenges of investigating anomalies that seem to respond to observation and defy conventional study. Randall explains electromagnetic pulse bursts and their potential to disable modern electronics and infrastructure. The discussion addresses both natural EMP from solar storms and artificial EMP from nuclear weapons detonated at high altitude. Kelleher shares specific cases from NIDS research including unexplained animal deaths and technological anomalies. Randall examines America's vulnerability to EMP attack and the catastrophic societal breakdown that would follow grid failure. The broadcast bridges scientific investigation of paranormal phenomena with analysis of technological and strategic threats. The conversation explores the intersection of frontier science and national security concerns.