Art Bell hosts a dynamic discussion with Dr. H. Paul Shuch, executive director of the SETI League, and nuclear physicist and UFO researcher Stanton Friedman. Together, they debate the effectiveness of the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI), question mainstream scientific assumptions, and explore alternative possibilities for contact with non-human civilizations. Shuch defends SETI's mission and methodology, while Friedman critiques its limitations and advocates for deeper investigation into UFO phenomena. A lively and thought-provoking clash of ideas about humanity's place in the cosmos.