When people think about appeals, they may not realize that some of the most important appellate work happens in the trial court. One of the keys to a successful appeal is making sure that the jury charge includes the right questions and instructions or that error is preserved from the failure to do so. In this episode, Jody Sanders and Todd Smith continue their conversation with David Keltner, who shares his unmatched expertise in crafting and objecting to jury charges. David also offers his insights on oral argument and ways to use that time valuably to assist an appellate court in crafting the most favorable opinion.

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