Jen and Tim talk about the apparent poshness of creative work, and its relation to the regular work mentality that more effort leads to more results. In each of their new projects, Jen and Tim are embracing more sustainable and nourishing methods. Or at least Jen is, and Tim is trying to spend less time frowning at his laptop.

After Monday's call, Jen and Tim started recording again, and captured these bonus after-thoughts. Jen has a theory of non-linear time, where there is enough space to make room for her work, for new assignments, and for personal life. Time expands to allow everything its due attention. Tim keeps his eyes only half-open most of the time, but there are some upcoming choices that will require full attention.

Tim walks steadily, forward and forward, without resting much and without going too fast. Jen rests, lets everything silently settle into the right place in her head, and then takes a shortcut that speeds her ahead. In this episode, we talk about how and why we move at the pace we do.

Jen is inviting collaborators into her new project, but is worried about doing so when there could be unforeseen cracks in the plan. Tim is trying desperately to reach inbox zero in all parts of his life, so he can move forward without being worried about everything he’s forgetting.

Tim is finishing work on Season 1 of The Feels, and excited to reinstitute good daily habits and move into whatever’s next. Jen is continuing work on her new secret project, navigating what can or can’t be said aloud.

Sometimes it’s like a faucet, other times like a firehose. Jen and Tim are both in a moment of excess, with full schedules and too many things to juggle. But Tim’s work only requires him to be on the surface, while some of Jen’s necessitates deep-diving. Will they survive or will they drown??

Jen is secretly, quietly, sideways-working on a new idea without scaring it away, and letting it come out and get written down without going through all the doubt and hope. It’s a useful shortcut. Tim is mostly just sleeping in and watching TV, and maybe that’s okay.

Jen and Tim are both running on empty. It’s the end of the summer and Jen’s in the final stretch of family time. Tim’s The Feels is out, and he’s been juggling so many projects he’s not doing any of them just right.

Tim’s premiere of The Feels is tonight. He and Jen talk about the challenges of asking for help, and trying to help someone who’s buried in their work. It can be a gift to someone to let them help you. But it can also be a burden to be over-helped? You know, it’s complicated.

Jen returns home and re-establishes routines while avoiding emails. Tim presents Jen with a challenging decision for his online show: A creative studio would like to host it. He weighs the hopes and fears, and Jen offers her spot-on wisdom. Included: the dark arts of thinking about how to get an audience to see things on the internet, which can sometimes seem contrary to or a corruption of the art-making process. (!!!)