This week, Abby and Erin chat with Addie Liechty Kogan (they/them), a therapist, writer, and musician, about activism, social justice, burn out and much more. 

Content warning: Nothing is discussed graphically or in detail, but we do touch on topics that listeners may find difficult such as Gaza/Palestine, anti-semitism, and intergenerational trauma.

Follow Addie:
instragram: adzlk84
Addie's website

Two of Addie's writings on Israel - Palestine and generational trauma:
https://addiekogan.substack.com/p/when-is-violence-deserved
https://addiekogan.substack.com/p/my-records-of-survival

Some additional instagram sources that Addie recommends:
@eladnehorai, @aprilrosenblum5784 and @ben.lorber.18

Also mentioned in this episode:
Mennonite Action: https://www.mennoniteaction.org/, 
Doctrine of Discovery:  https://dismantlediscovery.org/about/ 

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week, Erin and Abby chat with Marlene Epp, about her new book,  Eating Like A Mennonite: Food and Community across Borders. Epp's book dives into how Mennonites cook and eat around the world, gendered expectations (and opportunities) around food, the impact of food trauma on Mennonites, and much more - we highly recommend you add it to your to-read list.

We chat with Marlene about haystacks (of course), foodways, the value of cookbooks, and whether "Mennonite food" is an actual thing.

Thank you to McGill-Queen's University Press for providing us with review copies of the book.

Links:
Eating like a Mennonite
Marlene Epp - website

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week we chat with the Naomi Clark and Rebecca Coblentz, co-hosts of the podcast Uncovered: Life Beyond. The goal of the Uncovered podcast is to provide a roadmap for people leaving high-demand religion, particularly focused on applying for and navigating college. Naomi and Rebecca share with us their journeys away from the Beachy Amish communities they grew up in, and their own experiences navigating college. We also discuss Amish schooling, Wisconsin v Yoder, and the importance of the 40-year-old "Come Apart." 

Amish Descendant Scholarship Fund: This scholarship fund provides financial assistance to those from plain communities wanting to pursue college. Visit the website to apply for the scholarship, or to make a donation to the scholarship fund. 

We highly recommend you check out the Uncovered podcast! Find them at the links below:   

• Uncovered: Life Beyond podcast
• Find them on socials: Facebook & Instagram
• Email: [email protected] 

Links to more information on Wisconsin v Yoder: 

• Uncovered Episode: Contradictions and Consequences of Amish Schooling (part 1)
• Uncovered Episode: Contradictions and Consequences of Amish Schooling (part 2)
• Article: Do Amish One-room schools make the grade? The dubious data of Wisconsin v Yoder
• Article: "Yoder" Revisited: Why the Landmark Amish Schooling Case Could - And Should - Be Overturned

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week, Abby and Erin chat with Marshall King, food writer and author of the book, Disarmed. We chat food memories and what it's like to write about food in a local context. We also chat about Marshall's writing of Disarmed: The Radical Life and Legacy of Michael "MJ" Sharp - the writing process, writing an honest story, and more. 

Content Warning: During the portions of our conversation covering Disarmed, we discuss in non-graphic ways MJ's death while working in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. 

Links to Marshall's writing: 

• Website (Hungrymarshall.com)
• Substack
• Disarmed book

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week, Abby and Erin chat with Elizabeth Miller, director of the Mennonite Historical Library and the Institute for the Study of Global Anabaptism, about both her current work, and her years spent with Mennonite Central Committee in Bogota, Colombia. We chat casseroles, parenting internationally, and learn a lot about Mennonites in Colombia.

Learn more about Elizabeth's work:
Institute for the Study of Global Anabaptism (ISGA)

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week, Abby and Erin are joined by Kaleb Wyse from the Wyse Guide. Kaleb creates content focused on life in rural Iowa - canning, gardening, recipes, home decor, etc. We chat about his experience creating and running a successful internet brand, sour kraut salad and graham cracker fluff, and debate the appropriate time to begin listening to Christmas music.

Follow Kaleb and Wyse Guide:
Wyse guide website and blog: https://www.wyseguide.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WyseGuide/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wyseguide/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WyseGuide

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week, we veer a bit away from our typical subject matter to chat about a topic that Erin and Abby find interesting:  the Enneagram.  We are joined by guest, Marathana Prothro, an Assistant Professor of Communication at Bluffton University who is also certified through the Enneagram Institute of Ohio.

In our conversation with Marathana, we chat about how the Enneagram differs from other personality tools, how being Mennonite might impact how an Enneagram number presents or is interpreted, and spend a fair amount of time trying to help Abby determine what her Enneagram number might be.
 
While this episode does cover some of the basics of the Enneagram - what it is, and a brief overview of the 9 types - if the Enneagram is new to you, we recommend looking at the Enneagram Institute website for a quick primer. We use a couple terms in this episode without explanation, for example "wings" (the number directly left or right of one's primary enneagram number - for example, Erin is a 7 wing 6), and "directions of integration" or disintegration which refer to how an enneagram type grows, or reacts to stress. 

If you are interested in learning more, here are some recommended resources from Marathana: 

• The Art of Typing: Powerful Tools for Enneagram Typing by Ginger Lapid-Bogda
• The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge by Beatrice Chestnut
• Discovering Your Personality Type: The New Enneagram Questionnaire by Don Richard Riso
• The Enneagram of Belonging: A Compassionate Journey of Self-Acceptance by Christopher Heuertz
• The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective by Richard Rohr
• The Enneagram in Love & Work by Helen Palmer
• The Journey Toward Wholeness by Suzanne Stabile
• Keys to the Enneagram by A.H. Almaas (for more advanced students)
• Know Justice, Know Peace: A Transformative Journey of Social Justice,  Anti-Racism, and Healing through the Power of the Enneagram by Deborah Threadgill Egerton
• The Path Between Us by Suzanne Stabile
• Reclaiming You: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience by Sharon K. Ball & Renée Siegel
• The Road Back to You book &  podcast by Suzanne Stabile & Ian Morgan Cron
• The Wisdom of the Enneagram by Riso & Hudson

We always love hearing from listeners! You can reach us at plainwrongpod at gmail.com, or on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week, Abby and Erin meet with historian Steve Nolt, author of many books and articles about the Amish and director of the Elizabethtown College Young Center for Anabaptist and Pietist studies.  We chat about Steve's work and research, current projects, interesting questions he's been asked about the Amish, and what the word "haystack" means to him. 

Steve has authored, co-authored, and edited many books and articles on the Amish. A few select items from that list include: 

• The Amish: A Concise Introduction (2016)
• A History of the Amish (3rd edition, 2016)
• The Emergence of Amish Genetic Studies: A Brief History of Collaboration and Reciprocity (Journal of Plain Anabaptist Communities, 2020)

Learn more about Steve and see his full list of publications on his website.  

As a reminder, Tillie is currently leading a study abroad term in Ecuador but will rejoin the MennoBrarains when she returns home later this summer! You can follow her journey at https://www.goshen.edu/ecuador/current-blog/

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week, two of the three MennoBrarians are back to introduce season 6! We chat recent moves and house projects, provide an overview of what we will be covering this season, and chat at length about several of our favorite recent reads. 

Books we discuss and recommend in this episode (in the order discussed): 
Song of Achilles, Madeline Miller
World War Z, Max Brooks (Abby specifically recommends trying the audio book)
Divine Rivals, Rebecca Ross
The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo, Taylor Jenkins Reid
Listen for the Lie, Amy Tintera
I Have Some Questions for You, Rebecca Makkai
Check & Mate, Ali Hazelwood
Killers of the Flower Moon, David Grann

We are sticking with the every-other-week release schedule for this season, so our next episdoe, an interview with historian Steve Nolt, will be out May 15.

As a reminder, Tillie is temporarily absent this season as she is leading a study abroad semester for Goshen College. You can follow along with her experiences on the official blog: https://www.goshen.edu/ecuador/

We always love hearing from listeners! You can reach us at plainwrongpod at gmail.com, or on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.

This week we wrap up season 5! As a reminder, season 5 was shorter to accommodate Tillie's opportunity to lead a study abroad semester in Ecuador.  We chat about season 5, issue a few corrections, play a few bloopers, and provide updated stats. 

We will be back soon with season 6! Plans are still underway, but after a bit of hiatus for planning and recording, Abby and Erin will be launching a season of interviews and episodes with guests - if you have recommendations for people we should talk to, please let us know! 

We will provide Tillie updates during Season 6 as well, but you can also follow the group's adventures on the Goshen College SST blog:  https://www.goshen.edu/ecuador/

Also, we recorded this episode in early December, so Patreon members joining after that time did not receive their "public shout out" reward in this season wrap up - we apologize and owe you two public shout outs during season 6! 

We always love hearing from listeners! You can reach us at plainwrongpod at gmail.com, or on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

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“Just Plain Wrong” is produced, written and edited by Erin Milanese, Abby Nafziger and Matilda Yoder.

Our intro music is played by Erin, and the outro by Miriam Augsburger. Both are "arrangements" of the Doxology from the Mennonite Hymnal.

Logo design by Ida Yoder Short. Canva design (used for Social Media posts in Season 4 -6) by Abigail Adams.