Roy Speckhardt is Executive Direction of AHA and author of several books, including his most recent, titled "Justice-Centered Humanism: How (and Why) to Engage in Public Policy for Good (Humanism in Practice). We talk about atheism VS Humanism, and being forces for positive change in this crazy world.

Roy's book: https://amzn.to/3lfCy3h
American Humanist Association: http://www.americanhumanist.org

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