The New York Times published its new state polls from Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina which have Donald Trump ahead 5, 4, and 2 points respectively. Hugh opens the podcast talking about that and interviews Vic Matus, Bethany Mandel, and Jim Geraghty about those numbers and Kamala’s Oprah fiasco, as well as Senate candidates Mike Rogers (MI) and Dave McCormick (PA) before talking with Ned Ryun about his new book American Leviathan.

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