For the first "Naked Lunch" over a meal from Max & Helen's, Phil & David welcome Emmy and Grammy-winning comedian and actress Kathy Griffin to the podcast. They all retrace how they all first met many decades ago, then catch up and discuss with some of the drama in Kathy's life over the past decade, and how Kathy has finally returned to her greatest joy -- comedy, including her on her current "New Face, New Tour" and "My Life on the PTSD List," her 2025 Comedy Special that you can see free on YouTube. For information on Kathy's upcoming tour dates -- and so much more -- go to https://www.kathygriffin.net. To learn more about building community through food and "Somebody Feed the People," visit the Philanthropy page at philrosenthalworld.com.

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