Kelly Chase, one of the most insightful voices in the UFO and UAP space, joined me for a fascinating conversation about her latest documentary series, Cosmosis: UFOs and a New Reality. Kelly has been everywhere lately including News Nation. Kelly through her UFO Rabbit Hole podcast and book has been pushing the UAP conversation forward. We talked about how the UFO discussion has shifted, with many trying to keep it strictly within a scientific framework while brushing aside the historical and spiritual aspects. She made a strong case that ignoring those elements limits our understanding, especially when they’ve been part of the phenomenon for centuries.

While credibility is important, she believes we shouldn’t dismiss the more mysterious or “woo” aspects just because they don’t fit neatly into traditional narratives. We also got into recent controversies, like the backlash against experiencers and the government’s murky handling of the recent “drone” situation.

Kelly pointed out how much of this feels like an attempt to control the narrative rather than provide real answers. That’s part of what makes Cosmosis stand out—it’s not just another documentary covering the basics, but one that challenges viewers to think deeper about what these encounters could mean. She also shared that The UFO Rabbit Hole is evolving into the Cosmosis podcast, giving her an even bigger platform to explore these ideas. It was a great discussion, and if you're looking for fresh perspectives on the UFO topic, Kelly’s work is essential!

Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality: https://www.cosmosis.media/

Thanks Kelly!

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