In this episode of Aimpoint’s Taking Aim podcast, hosted by Richard Nance interviews Kelly McCann, a former Marine Corps infantry commander and special operations veteran known for his pioneering work in combatives and firearms training. McCann shares his journey from learning hand-to-hand combat from his military family to developing a reality-based combatives system that emphasizes gross motor skills, adaptability, and the "will to fight" over outdated, formulaic techniques. He discusses debunking myths like "muscle memory," his early adoption of red dot sights on pistols in the late 1980s, and his rigorous instructor certification process that tests candidates’ ability to perform under pressure. With a career spanning work with elite units, founding the multimillion-dollar Crucible training company, and media contributions under the alias Jim Grover, McCann’s insights into realistic self-defense, tactical innovation, and mental toughness resonate strongly with the podcast’s tactical audience.

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