In this episode, I talk with Kelly McDaniel, author and licensed professional counselor. Her fantastic new nonfiction book is Mother Hunger: How Adult Daughters Can Understand and Heal from Lost Nurturance, Protection, and Guidance.

As serious as her topic is, our conversation is sure to make listeners smile.

What makes it especially fun is that Kelly and I are joined in conversation with her writer friend, Founder and Clinical Director of the Center for Relational Recovery Michelle Mays. Michelle is the author of The Aftermath of Betrayal and When It All Breaks Bad: Ten Things to Do (and not do) After Betrayal. Michelle and Kelly give listeners a little insight into the author’s journey—and share insights about writing backed by science that might just knock your socks off.

We also talk about:

https://kellymcdanieltherapy.com

https://partnerhope.com/about/

Kelly McDaniel, LPC, NCC, CSAT is a licensed professional counselor and author who specializes in treating women who experience addictive relational patterns. A pioneer in her field, McDaniel is the first clinician to name Mother Hunger as an attachment injury and explore the repercussions of bonding to an emotionally compromised mother. Kelly teaches workshops and speaks to audiences nationwide about Mother Hunger. She is a frequent podcast guest and her groundbreaking work is being used at several treatment centers around the country.

Michelle Mays LPC, CSAT-S

Founder and Clinical Director of the Center for Relational Recovery located in Leesburg Virginia outside of Washington DC, Michelle Mays LPC, CSAT-S has over 20 years’ experience in providing individual, couples and group therapy to those struggling with sexual addiction, betrayal trauma, childhood trauma and relationship issues.

Michelle is the founder of PartnerHope, offering an online transformational program for betrayed partners.  She is also the creator of the Relational Recovery Disclosure Prep Model and provides resources, training and support to therapists to help them deepen their skill set around facilitating disclosures.

Michelle is the author of the books The Aftermath of Betrayal and When It All Breaks Bad: Ten Things to Do (and not do) After Betrayal.

Michelle is a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist and Supervisor trained under Dr. Patrick Carnes. She is also trained in Post Induction Therapy by Pia Mellody for the treatment of relational trauma and is in the process of completing her certification in Emotionally Focused Therapy for couples. Michelle is a Licensed Professional Counselor and Supervisor in both Virginia and Washington DC.